Pascal Titan-X Launch

Rannoch · 10 Aug 2016 at 00:00

Wait For Vega.. Actually don't, it wont deliver.

RanxZy · 10 Aug 2016 at 06:38

Vargas said:
Wait For Vega.. Actually don't, it wont deliver.

Rather wait for this GP102 core in aftermarket cards, it'll happen sooner or later

whether they call it 1080Ti or 1080Peasant Edition, who knows, but I want it.

eddyr · 10 Aug 2016 at 09:01

Greebo said:
That's my thoughts and what I suggested early. A new Titan, call it black or z and a 1080ti slotted in between.

Both would sell.

Yup. When you also consider that around the sort of time Vega with that level of performance is expected to release. At that point they would need a more affordable card at that tier anyway, the 1080ti directly replacing the TItanXP with 1 or 2 fewer SM's and a clockspeed bump is the most straightforward.

Vargas said:
Wait For Vega.. Actually don't, it wont deliver.

It will hit that performance tier, just not at low prices which people still expect. They will be priced according to the competition equivalents at the time, which I don't expect to fall much - other than the GP102 (TitanXP die) dropping into a vacant price slot ~$699-799 region. In a way Nvidia are doing AMD a favour if they maintain their pricing structure.

imginy · 10 Aug 2016 at 09:32

Was just looking at benchmarks new titan is a beast

Gerard · 10 Aug 2016 at 15:57

This guy must have his review rig inside a fridge.

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/78...r-performance-4k-60fps-single-gpu/index9.html

NVIDIA has kept the thermals in check with the new Pascal-based Titan X, with our sample running at a maximum of 69C. All I did was throw it in and load it with benchmarks and games at 1080p, 1440p, and 4K, and it kept under 70C without a problem. Although, it did get kind of loud.

Seems legit. :confused:

trawetSluaP · 10 Aug 2016 at 16:11

You guys think these will be sold separate by retailers outside of Nvidia?

Gerard · 10 Aug 2016 at 16:13

trawetSluaP said:
You guys think these will be sold separate by retailers outside of Nvidia?

Doesn't look like it, nvidia want all the proceeds from this for themselves :eek:

Id imagine some partners are slightly ****ed to say the least.

trawetSluaP · 10 Aug 2016 at 16:15

Gerard said:
Doesn't look like it, nvidia want all the proceeds from this for themselves

Id imagine some partners are slightly ****ed to say the least.

Annoying as I'd love to get one buy can't afford it outright and Nvidia don't offer finance. Damn.

D.P. · 10 Aug 2016 at 16:19

Kaapstad said:
Or they needed to do something with GP102 chips that did not make the grade for the full fat compute cards.

GP102 is not a compute card per se, that is the GP100.

GP102 was always meant as the high end gaming chip. GP100 is for HPC and deep learning.

D.P. · 10 Aug 2016 at 16:24

Kaapstad said:
If NVidia can sell someone a Pascal Titan instead of a 1080 it only increases their profit.

Having said that the two cards are aimed at different markets.

The profit difference is huge since with the Titan there is no middle man. 1 Titan must be equivalent to something like 5x 1080s, 10x 1070 and 20-30x 1060s sold.

And that's what some people never realize when they go on about market share in the mainstream segment. Profit margins are really small, and if you are trying to undercut your competitor by $30 then your profits become very weak and barely sustainable. Selling millions of cards at near production cost is mostly a waste of time, which is why AMD struggle to make any profit quarter on quarter, unless they sell off chunks of the company to the Chinese.

eddyr · 10 Aug 2016 at 16:50

D.P. said:
The profit difference is huge since with the Titan there is no middle man. 1 Titan must be equivalent to something like 5x 1080s, 10x 1070 and 20-30x 1060s sold.

And that's what some people never realize when they go on about market share in the mainstream segment. Profit margins are really small, and if you are trying to undercut your competitor by $30 then your profits become very weak and barely sustainable. Selling millions of cards at near production cost is mostly a waste of time, which is why AMD struggle to make any profit quarter on quarter, unless they sell off chunks of the company to the Chinese.

It's why I think Polaris, in its current form, is in part about filling their wafer quota with GF without it hurting them financially. They need a chip to be manufactured (to avoid penalties) and that will sell in decent volume (so as to not have to write off stock X months down the line).
I think AMD should take advantage of Nvidia's pricing and not go with an excessive price/performance strategy. As bad as it would be for consumers in the short term, it would help boost margins and hopefully revenue from selling gaming GPU's.

easyrider · 10 Aug 2016 at 18:07

Are these listed on ocuk ?

whyscotty · 10 Aug 2016 at 18:18

easyrider said:
Are these listed on ocuk ?

No, available thru Nvidia only

vitolodebamio · 10 Aug 2016 at 18:33

Write here to all interested in reading, including Nvidia people!!!

I purchased one of the new TitanX Pascal from Spain on august 2nd (first hour after release) and still waiting for it when nvidia.es have shown stock (still showing) and 1-3 working days for delivery since that day.

I contacted Digital River and they dont know what its happening. Its a problem only with spanish web since the card is being received in other countries. Seems like discrimination!!!

So, please, Nvidia, solve the problem. You got my money since august 2nd, I dont have the card neither a good explanation of what is going on!!!

Very disappointing!!!

Ayahuasca · 10 Aug 2016 at 18:59

Why would nVidia write here for your issue lol

Combat Fighter · 10 Aug 2016 at 18:59

vitolodebamio said:
Write here to all interested in reading, including Nvidia people!!!

I purchased one of the new TitanX Pascal from Spain on august 2nd (first hour after release) and still waiting for it when nvidia.es have shown stock (still showing) and 1-3 working days for delivery since that day.

I contacted Digital River and they dont know what its happening. Its a problem only with spanish web since the card is being received in other countries. Seems like discrimination!!!

So, please, Nvidia, solve the problem. You got my money since august 2nd, I dont have the card neither a good explanation of what is going on!!!

Very disappointing!!!

Espero que se convierte en imagen para usted pronto mi amigo. Debe ser uno pequeño mono frustrado por el momento.

Panos · 10 Aug 2016 at 19:20

Ayahuasca said:
Why would nVidia write here for your issue lol

I assume you aren't referring to me yes?

vitolodebamio · 10 Aug 2016 at 19:52

Combat Fighter said:
Espero que se convierte en imagen para usted pronto mi amigo. Debe ser uno pequeño mono frustrado por el momento.

Hey mate, I guess you used a translator, and you are calling me donkey in spanish and wish me an "image" soon!!!

:confused:

I write here to publish how badly Nvidia is behaving with me and spanish titanx pascal buyers!!!

DarrenM343 · 10 Aug 2016 at 20:08

mi pie izquierdo huele a uvas y mi cabeza es un nabo

joking aside, hope you get the TX soon

NirK · 10 Aug 2016 at 20:29

Gerard said:
This guy must have his review rig inside a fridge.

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/78...r-performance-4k-60fps-single-gpu/index9.html

Seems legit.

Probably open test bench + also it was cold at the time.. but that is definitely not what you would get with the default fan, it would get up to 84c.

For example the first week when I got my FTW, I thought it was very hot, it got up to 78c, but also it was a heatwave in UK and was about 30c... now in normal temperatures it does not go over about 72c.