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[FoxEye]

Why should an IT job pay more just because something is deemed "less" of an intellectual job. Hard graft has just as much right to pay too.

I don't disagree in all honesty, but we seem to be super inconsistent about that kind of thing. Plenty of hard graft jobs that pay really poorly, too. Cleaning can be bloody difficult and tends to pay poorly, as does being a carer, etc.

I was just surprised that fish filleting could command that kind of money.

 

[adam cool dude]

I don't disagree in all honesty, but we seem to be super inconsistent about that kind of thing. Plenty of hard graft jobs that pay really poorly, too. Cleaning can be bloody difficult and tends to pay poorly, as does being a carer, etc.

I was just surprised that fish filleting could command that kind of money.

It is just an indeed click bait wage.

Most likely either one of or all of the following. Nightshift, based on 60 hours, including bonus like piece work etc.

 

[slinxy]

Why should an IT job pay more just because something is deemed "less" of an intellectual job. Hard graft has just as much right to pay too.

100% agree.. the so called IT skills have been taken away from the lower end of the IT market with automation. A lot of the so called specialists roles are just tasks that are embedded into most IT staff’s BAU.

The number of so called specialists, I meet and think.. “dude, do I really need to explain your job role…”.. this goes for vendor support from very well known IT companies.

In my team alone, in the 2 and half years, we have seen a turn over of 8 members of staff in a very small team.
Some people love the specialist title and pay grade, even ask to join our team or to help out.. only to quickly leave.

Some people couldn’t hack the technology requirement, some couldn’t hack the highly stressful environment.. some couldn’t hack either.

 

[FoxEye]

100% agree.. the so called IT skills have been taken away from the lower end of the IT market with automation. A lot of the so called specialists roles are just tasks that are embedded into most IT staff’s BAU.

The number of so called specialists, I meet and think.. “dude, do I really need to explain your job role…”.. this goes for vendor support from very well known IT companies.

In my team alone, in the 2 and half years, we have seen a turn over of 8 members of staff in a very small team.
Some people love the specialist title and pay grade, even ask to join our team or to help out.. only to quickly leave.

Some people couldn’t hack the technology requirement, some couldn’t hack the highly stressful environment.. some couldn’t hack either.

What does your team do?

 

[slinxy]

What does your team do?

Sorry chap, I have an non disclosure in my contract… it’s not so much of what we do, it’s the industry that I work in.

Given hindsight, I may have stayed in my previous role and not be a “high earner”.. but I need to play out this hand that I’ve accepted now. I will love to discuss all at some point, but they may stick a silence cause in some sort of exit agreement. It’s a pain when you can’t moan about work stuff.

 

[FoxEye]

Aright, but you'll have to excuse me being a bit suspicious when somebody claims to be a high roller but then says they can't describe what they do

It would just be too easy for anybody to make that claim, spuriously.

 

[slinxy]

Naa… I’m far from being a high roller.. like I said in my other post, I may earn more than the average and more than what I was in before. But I stick as much as that as possible into savings of different sorts, I don’t intend to be at my current role for longer than required.

My aim isn’t to work and be filthy rich, my aim is to be financially secure and this job’s pay allows me to do this in a shorter time period.

 

[aspiring]

What wage in north is equivalent to say 100k in London?

 

[ultralaser]

What wage in north is equivalent to say 100k in London?

It varies massively to be honest in my experience. There's nice areas in Manchester, Leeds or York that are getting closer to London prices, especially post covid. That said I'd still map a Northern salary of between 65-75K to a London salary of about 95K-115K.

 

[CapitalOne]

Why should an IT job pay more just because something is deemed "less" of an intellectual job. Hard graft has just as much right to pay too.

You get paid what the labour required by your role is worth to your employer is why. If you aren’t value for money however……

 

[platinum87]

I don't disagree in all honesty, but we seem to be super inconsistent about that kind of thing. Plenty of hard graft jobs that pay really poorly, too. Cleaning can be bloody difficult and tends to pay poorly, as does being a carer, etc.

I was just surprised that fish filleting could command that kind of money.

Doctors are massively underpaid.

Cleaning jobs are overpaid on average, unless we get into more specialist cleaning things.

Train drivers are massively overpaid.

The reason for each, doctors are paid by the NHS therefore their value is decided by the state, not by their market value... Minimum wage is too high relative to the average salary in the UK. And lastly, train drivers have too strong unions.

 

[dlockers]

It varies massively to be honest in my experience. There's nice areas in Manchester, Leeds or York that are getting closer to London prices, especially post covid. That said I'd still map a Northern salary of between 65-75K to a London salary of about 95K-115K.

I think that's probably fair - altho it excluded parents. A lot of my London friends are solely dependant on child care. I currently pay 9£ and hour. Most of my northern or midland friends have local childminders, nanny's, grand parents who live nearby the need to earn large numbers isn't anyway near as high.

To move my mum near me would probably cost about the same as my childcare bill actually. Hmm

 

[Richie]

Minimum wage is too high relative to the average salary in the UK.

Yeah, you're going to have to run me through the theory on that one.... Show your workings.

 

[panthro]

I would like to see medical professionals get paid much more than they currently do. The amount of abuse they take on a daily basis due to factors outside their control is unacceptable.

 

[Richie]

I would like to see medical professionals get paid much more than they currently do. The amount of abuse they take on a daily basis due to factors outside their control is unacceptable.

If you want to roll out an "abuse premium" then I'd imagine a lot of retail workers will be up for that....

 

[randomshenans]

Mine is 165,168CHF or 147,313GBP base, bonus depends but this year was 35,090CHF / 31,261 Bonus and an 8% pension contribution.
I have other streams totaling about 12k pa

But I'm about to be made redundant so...

 

[DJMK4]

If I tell you I'd have to shoot you.

You don't want to be shot now. Do you ?

 

[Lopéz]

Mine is 165,168CHF or 147,313GBP base, bonus depends but this year was 35,090CHF / 31,261 Bonus and an 8% pension contribution.
I have other streams totaling about 12k pa

But I'm about to be made redundant so...

Considering Austria isn't exactly the cheapest country to live in, the gulf between salaries here and CH is enormous.
Having said that, a friend of mine in Zurich pays CHF2700 for rent, CHF1600 for day care for the kids, CHF1100 for healthcare. Not exactly pocket change!

Germany outstrips us salary-wise for most sectors too, especially anything Tech related. Cost of living in Germany is probably cheaper than Austria in most areas other than Rent, which can be seriously high in German cities.

 

[randomshenans]

Germany outstrips us salary-wise for most sectors too, especially anything Tech related. Cost of living in Germany is probably cheaper than Austria in most areas other than Rent, which can be seriously high in German cities.

Tax in Germany is mega though. Proper slap.

Base costs here are a lot, even if I'm on the French side there is border creep of everything more because it's a bordering area to Switzerland. Luckily my kids are getting older, but childcare was a fortune (I know it is in the UK too), house is 2k a month, health is 1k... but tax isn't so bad with 3 kids. I pay 3100 a month in tax. On balance, if you can do it in your life, doing the whole Swiss thing is nice! Not sure where life will take me next.

I would like to just adventure around the world, with cars somehow involved. See what pans out or if I get sucked back into the corp life, but I'm not sure I could these days.

 

[Chrisc]

I think this should be everyone's mindset, it really is a good place to be, but sadly it tends not to be an aspiration for to many of us.

Modern society seems to drive people to accumulate things that you can then tick off you list of "Things I need for me to be or worse, to be SEEN to be wealthy". It has for the last few years added in the "show everyone how well you are doing on the internet" craze. Guilty as charged in the past of course, but not these days so much.

Yes I have nice things, but they are things I enjoy, not things I buy and put on the shelf of "what made me buy that!!". Ive not bought an expensive watch for years, seems pointless as I don't wear watches and haven't for a few years so bit pointless outside 'impressing' people who are unimportant to my life enjoyment. Sure I have nice cars and clothes but those both get used lots and give me proper pleasure, but outside of that I not longer seek the latest greatest gadgets or trinkets.

Aspire to being happy, healthy and cultivate a close and strong group of trustworthy life long friends you can spend time with and laugh lots. I've been at the top of the (posted) money list for many years, but has it made me happy or stopped me getting ill, divorced or stressed? Nope, not at all and I would argue that the stress is a trigger for the illness and the divorce....

Given up chasing the dollar, not worth it anymore. I am now about spending less, saving and downsizing and frankly finding time to work less (not fixed that last one just yet but I will). I am 56 however and in my 30's and most of my 40's I would NEVER think like that. My closest mates fit into 2 groups. The ones I grew up with (all employees) and ones I got to know in the last 20 years through shared interest (virtually all company owners or all sizes). The former group are all about retirement......as are most of the latter group.

Be happy with life and don't think "if only I earned more I would be happy" because most of the time, you won't.

We buy things we don't need with money we don't have. to impress people we don't like

that is pretty much the internets fault