a lot of rust on recent cars?

pugheaven · 11 Feb 2013 at 13:22

The paint on my Type R is quite frankly laughable in it's application... funny as was speaking with a body shop and was asking and they said the paint on Honda's for a few years has been poor. Time will tell the quality of this Mazda... however my old Mazda Xedos 6 was exceptional, I did 197k miles in that thing and not a spec anywhere... same with my 53 plate Saab Aero... nothing BUT the plastic door mirrors are terrible on Saabs all corroding after a few years. Seems we got superb quality and now it's like we're going backwards a little now... I looked under the body of my RX8 the other day and it's a rust fest everything corroded. Not a patch on the Saab or the Honda... then again might all just be surface rust but to me, it's not a good sign.

It's not just bodywork, the amount of corroded alloys... Mazda seem to be the worst with the worst corrosion in history. The guy who did my RX8's love Mazdas, he says they make up 20% of his repairs lol.

pepsilol · 11 Feb 2013 at 13:30

"andy" said:
I doubt manufacturing processes have changed much at all between your 10 and 5 year old car

Woah.

Relentless81 · 11 Feb 2013 at 14:17

Check out the arches where it meets the sill on any 04/05ish Mazda 6 quite worrying how much rust can be seen

pugheaven · 11 Feb 2013 at 14:24

Relentless81 said:
Check out the arches where it meets the sill on any 04/05ish Mazda 6 quite worrying how much rust can be seen

See this is the thing... why the hell are things rusting in this day and age. Ok, yeah, people look after their cars differently, but either way... galvansiing? better paint/primers etc? I'm really getting annoyed and I'm glad it is not just me noticing this... a car of that age should not be rusting... IMO anyway, maybe I'm living a dream lol

ScoobyDoo69 · 11 Feb 2013 at 14:30

I've seen a fair few modern Mercs with rust on the arches. I've always presumed it was down to a bad repair job.

Jonnycoupe · 11 Feb 2013 at 14:31

"andy" said:
I doubt manufacturing processes have changed much at all between your 10 and 5 year old car

You're quite right they haven't... there is still the cheap option and the proper solution. Just a lot go for the cheap option to increase margins at point of sale and hope they last the 6 / 8 /12 year warranty they may offer on corrosion.

Relentless81 · 11 Feb 2013 at 14:31

I wonder the same, then I think its 6/7 years old and if im just being stupid. I hate rust though, in my strange mind as soon as a car gets rust its broken and needs to cast off to another owner who won't mind it or will deal with it, my civic type-R on an 07 plate has rust and im seriously considering getting rid as I dont see the point in paying as much as I did for a car with rust, I might as well just spend less and buy older if i want a decomposing car

pugheaven · 11 Feb 2013 at 15:53

Relentless81 said:
I wonder the same, then I think its 6/7 years old and if im just being stupid. I hate rust though, in my strange mind as soon as a car gets rust its broken and needs to cast off to another owner who won't mind it or will deal with it, my civic type-R on an 07 plate has rust and im seriously considering getting rid as I dont see the point in paying as much as I did for a car with rust, I might as well just spend less and buy older if i want a decomposing car

Our Type R is an 07 plate, no rust. Where's yours as I'll be out with my ACF50 lol

L0rdMike · 11 Feb 2013 at 16:26

At least rust is one less thing I have to worry about.

mattyprice4004 · 11 Feb 2013 at 16:32

03 plate ZS on nearly 150k - no rust.

Yeaaaah German build quality

Lethagized · 11 Feb 2013 at 16:38

Peugeot's and suzuki's seem good for rust We've had both a wagonR and a couple of 106's over the years neither particularly looked after properly, and neither showed any signs of body corrosion. The 106 is a p plate and still no body rust. Yes, the suspension and subframe components were surfaced rusted, but doesn't really count. It's body corrosion that's the killer.

Dup · 11 Feb 2013 at 17:00

I went to look at an 8L 2003 S3 and the roof gutters, arches and the bottom of the doors were shot with rust. I didn't expect that to be honest.

-westy- · 11 Feb 2013 at 17:21

mattyprice4004 said:
03 plate ZS on nearly 150k - no rust.

Yeaaaah German build quality

J plate Mazda MX5, barely any rust. Bazinga

Relentless81 · 11 Feb 2013 at 18:11

Please delete

Relentless81 · 11 Feb 2013 at 18:12

pugheaven said:
Our Type R is an 07 plate, no rust. Where's yours as I'll be out with my ACF50 lol

Look along the seal where the windscreen meets the roof, here is a bad case of it

http://www.civinfo.com/forum/bugs-faults-irritations/81264-rusty-roof-honda-recall.html

Also at the top corner of the doors

http://www.civinfo.com/forum/bugs-faults-irritations/12975-rust-doors.html

Renault and Peugeot seem immune to rust, shame about everything else

pugheaven · 11 Feb 2013 at 18:42

Relentless81 said:
Look along the seal where the windscreen meets the roof, here is a bad case of it

http://www.civinfo.com/forum/bugs-faults-irritations/81264-rusty-roof-honda-recall.html

Also at the top corner of the doors

http://www.civinfo.com/forum/bugs-faults-irritations/12975-rust-doors.html

Renault and Peugeot seem immune to rust, shame about everything else

Friggin hell, I'll be double checking that lol, cheers man. As for Pugs yeah, galvanised panels help... you could always tell an accident Pug years ago, the front wings would rust, and you knew they were aftermarket replacements lol

GT3 · 11 Feb 2013 at 19:44

I seem to have the only rusty Peugeot 406 in existence, a shame as the car is lovely in every way apart from that but it is 16 years old this year! Middle of the sills have already been patched and painted but all arches are rusting inside out as can be seen from bubbles at front and rear near the bumper mounts and also the ends of sills don't look great either.

PardonTheWait · 15 Mar 2013 at 19:13

No rust on my S reg 106 GTI. Pugs don't seem to rust very much, some do but most don't get much or any rust.

Everything else is fair game though, fault wise.

GT3 · 15 Mar 2013 at 19:28

No rust on my G reg 205 GTI either :cool:

atpbx · 15 Mar 2013 at 20:13

nicRob said:
Wouldn't have thought the Sprinter would fare much better, given that they are the same van.

Yes.

I don't see how that is relevant however.