Alphacool Apex Stealth - The new go to fan

Mcnumpty2323 · 12 Dec 2023 at 15:39

Yeah
An artist is never truly satisfied
With their work
Just one more little change
After another
In the search of perfection :cry:

Jay85 · 12 Dec 2023 at 16:01

Mcnumpty2323 said:
Yeah
An artist is never truly satisfied
With their work
Just one more little change
After another
In the search of perfection

I honestly dont think i'll ever achieve perfection, OCD doesn't allow it lol.

Mcnumpty2323 · 12 Dec 2023 at 16:06

Jay85 said:
I honestly dont think i'll ever achieve perfection, OCD doesn't allow it lol.

A good thing really
If you achieve perfection
Where's the motivation to continue?
That drive for perfection
Is where your creativity comes from

Jay85 · 12 Dec 2023 at 16:21

Mcnumpty2323 said:
A good thing really
If you achieve perfection
Where's the motivation to continue?
That drive for perfection
Is where your creativity comes from

The problem with that is, i get bored easily so im always looking for something to do.

which usually leads to me spending money unnecessarily.

Grim5 · 12 Dec 2023 at 18:02

Perfect_Chaos said:

Well that just rubbishes most of Igor's tests. But really is anyone surprised; Igor is well known for putting out crap without proper testing methodology

Mcnumpty2323 · 12 Dec 2023 at 18:06

Grim5 said:
Well that just rubbishes most of Igor's tests. But really is anyone surprised; Igor is well known for putting out crap without proper testing methodology

Yeah the claims were just too outrageous
Fair enough a metal frame might
Be less resistant to vibration
And have a damping effect
But other than that where was all the extra performance
Going to come from
Derbuaer was very careful not to say
Your results are ######## mate
Very diplomatic about it lol
Waiting for other reviews to give same results now

Mcnumpty2323 · 12 Dec 2023 at 18:12

Just noticed
The alphacool apex website
It has jayz2cents on there in 14 minute video
Where he doesn't actually even test them?
First thing anyone would do surely
Connect those things up
And see what they can do

Parsley · 12 Dec 2023 at 18:37

I was suspicious of Igors results from the off, that big a leap of both noise levels and performance levels is simply too high. I think we are at the point where you pick one or the other, you can't have both with big leaps like that. The tweaking of fanblades can only effect so much and there are laws of physics that have to be obeyed.

I don't think there is anything malicious going on, just that a mistake has been made in testing.

This is what peer reviewing is for though, and Der8auer has done just that. Wait for a few more folks to do some testing.

Jay85 · 12 Dec 2023 at 19:21

Parsley said:
I was suspicious of Igors results from the off, that big a leap of both noise levels and performance levels is simply too high. I think we are at the point where you pick one or the other, you can't have both with big leaps like that. The tweaking of fanblades can only effect so much and there are laws of physics that have to be obeyed.

I don't think there is anything malicious going on, just that a mistake has been made in testing.

This is what peer reviewing is for though, and Der8auer has done just that. Wait for a few more folks to do some testing.

Exactly what i said, aside from making the fans thicker from 25mm to 30mm there isn't gonna be any huge impact on numbers unless we increase the size of the fans.

srekal34 · 12 Dec 2023 at 19:29

I am just wondering what Alphacool was aiming to achieve here. They are pretty reputable company with good products(certainly better than EK) - but this is WISH level marketing... surely they had known there will be a backlash from it?

Mcnumpty2323 · 12 Dec 2023 at 19:52

To me that's WAY beyond a mistake
It's sheer incompetence
First from alphacool
Then from their tester
Not like we are talking about companies/people
Who have no pc knowledge here
It's not exactly hard to test a fan

Unless any other reviewer comes out
And says igors lab and alphacool are correct
And derbuaer is wrong
Then I will have to eat my words lol

MartinPrince · 13 Dec 2023 at 09:16

Ayahuasca said:
This is very suspicious.

Why does the Alphacool get more airflow through a 45mm or 60mm radiator than a 25mm radiator, and almost as much as when used as a case fan? It's simply absurd, and there must be something wrong with the data.

Most of the noise 'advantage' in recordings comes from the lower noise floor of the recording equipment. At matched low-mid speeds, the Noctua produces significantly less hum as soon as both fans break through the noise floor. Then the only advantage of the Alphacool is the highly suspect airflow measurement.

At the very least, I think the results have been greatly exaggerated, otherwise this would be an absolute revolution in the case/radiator fan market. I'll be waiting for someone like Ali from Optimum Tech to review it instead, as he's one of the few people I trust with sound measurements.

Quoted as the first to immediately question Igors results. (You must be feeling pretty smug about now.

)

This is an object lesson why to never make a purchasing decision based on 1 review. Especially with metrics that aren't easily tested by yourself like CFM.

Jay85 · 13 Dec 2023 at 13:12

Interesting... basically another review saying more or less the same thing.

Mcnumpty2323 · 13 Dec 2023 at 13:46

Jay85 said:
Interesting... basically another review saying more or less the same thing.

That was a decent review
They certainly don't look like bad fans at all
Just they over hyped them massively
Guy makes a sensible point
If you only measure specific frequencies
You could end up with vastly altered sound results
Not sure I will be running out to buy them
Since 13 fans in my build that would be a serious bit of cash
Not to mention the added weight lol

Jay85 · 13 Dec 2023 at 13:50

Mcnumpty2323 said:
That was a decent review
They certainly don't look like bad fans at all
Just they over hyped them massively
Guy makes a sensible point
If you only measure specific frequencies
You could end up with vastly altered sound results
Not sure I will be running out to buy them
Since 13 fans in my build that would be a serious bit of cash
Not to mention the added weight lol

£325 lol, that could net you a decent gpu for that price :cry:

So glad i only need 2 :cry:

Mcnumpty2323 · 13 Dec 2023 at 13:52

Jay85 said:
£325 lol, that could net you a decent gpu for that price

So glad i only need 2

Ask alphacool for 15 freebies then :cry:

Make my Xmas a bit merrier :cry:

Ps.
Ask for 13 white ones :cry:

Jay85 · 13 Dec 2023 at 13:54

Mcnumpty2323 said:
Ask alphacool for 15 freebies then
Make my Xmas a bit merrier

Still not heard anything back yet, i also placed the order for the manifold but i made a mistake in my email so trying to reach support to amend it. Been a nightmare on my part :cry:

, all self inflicted!

Mcnumpty2323 · 13 Dec 2023 at 13:57

Jay85 said:
Still not heard anything back yet, i also placed the order for the manifold but i made a mistake in my email so trying to reach support to amend it. Been a nightmare on my part , all self inflicted!

Don't we have an alphacool guy in forums?
My memory sucks
Can't remember if he left ek
To go to alphacool
Or vice versa

Jay85 · 13 Dec 2023 at 14:35

Mcnumpty2323 said:
Don't we have an alphacool guy in forums?
My memory sucks
Can't remember if he left ek
To go to alphacool
Or vice versa

Not anymore, he's an EKWB guy now.

You talking about Dave?

Mcnumpty2323 · 13 Dec 2023 at 14:39

Jay85 said:
Not anymore, he's an EKWB guy now.

You talking about Dave?

Yeah think so
Davido_labido good chance that's going
To be dave