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GTX1050 to be launched in October

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Nvidia RIP OFF???? Don't think so.

$159 = £119 x 20% VAT = £142.80

Cost few pounds more than AMD biggest RIP OFF ever 4GB RX 460, GTX 1050 would offer much better value than £139 4GB RX 460 with 6 pin power connector that have absolutely no OC headroom at all if it have good reviews when it launch in October.

You can get six pin and bus powered RX460 2GB cards for £98 onwards delivered which is what the GTX750TI costs and that is from multiple retailers too. 4GB cards cost from £125 onwards.

Moreover,the RX460 is not even full Polaris 11 - it has 896 shaders instead of 1024.

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So the RX460 2GB(depending on whether it is bus powered or not),trades blows with the GTX950,but is cheaper.

Looking at the specs of the GTX1050,it looks like it will trade blows with the GTX960 or be a bit faster,whilst being cheaper.

Personally that is not too bad,as any improvements in the sub £150 sector are welcomed.
 
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I forget what GTX 750 Ti was cost when it was launched back in 2014.

http://videocardz.com/nvidia/geforce-700/geforce-gtx-750-ti

Surprised it was launched at $159 which will be the same price as 4GB GTX 1050! I supposed GTX 750 Ti 1GB started at $159 and $179 for 2GB model? Had a vague memory what OCUK price for GTX 750 Ti was at launch, probably £99 for 1GB and £139 for 2GB.

http://videocardz.com/nvidia/geforce-700/geforce-gtx-750

GTX 750 launch price was $119 so I think $119 will be GTX 1050 2GB launch price.

GTX 1050 4GB will be nice massive upgrade for GTX 750 and 750 Ti owners. :cool:

It does not change the fact that the RX460 2GB is under £100 and that is with the pound 20% weaker than it was last year. RRP is $110. GTX1050 4GB RRP is $149 it seems. The GTX950 RRP was around $150 to $160.

That means,the cheapest GTX1050 will be £135 to £140 at current exchange rates,or 35% to 40% more than a RX460 2GB. So I expect,that it should be at least 35% faster to compensate.

According to that link you posted the GTX750 RRP is $119 and the GTX750TI RRP is $149. That means the RX460 launched at a lower USD price than the GTX750.

The GTX750TI is £95 to £100 for a 2GB version,and the stock was purchased when the pound was much stronger. The same with the GTX950.

The GTX1050 is not £100 it appears. If you think it will be that price,you must have missed the whole issue of the pound being at its lower level for decades - its nearly 20% lower than last year. A direct conversion with VAT included would place the GXT1050 4GB as being £135 to £140.

The RX460 is a better card than the GTX750TI.

So trying to twist the RX460 as being a £140,well its not entirely true,right?? The 2GB version is $110,and under £100 which means it is competing with the GTX750TI.

Just because you cherry picked the most expensive 4GB RX460 does not make the RX460 a £140 card. Its a £100 card with versions costing £140. Nobody would be buying a £140 RX460 4GB when you can get a GTX960 or R9 380 for that kind of money anyway.

You are just obssessed with making everything a AMD vs Nvidia fight. It is getting tiresome very quickly.

To make it simple for you:
1.)Around £100 delivered, GTX750TI or RX460
2.)Around £120 to £130 delivered, GTX950(odd card might be on offer and cheaper as it is EOL now) and RX460 4GB
3.)Around £130 to £150 delivered - GTX960 or R9 380.

The GTX1050 is slotting into the third sector.

Maybe,Nvidia will have a cut down card to compete with the RX460 2GB. However,the card you are describing is competing with more expensive cards.
 
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^^ You are of course assuming it will compete with the 460 rather than the 470! I suspect it will just be somewhere between.

Sorry,but 768 shaders at 1.3GHZ to 1.4GHZ instead of 1152 shaders at 1.5/1.6GHZ+ is a massive cut.

Like I said its going to replace the GTX950 and due to the weak pound its going to be more like £135 to £140.

I predict it will be around GTX960 or slightly faster,but consumes less power OFC.

It might be bus powered so will be quite nifty too.

You only have to look at the massive gap in performance between the £100 RX460 2GB(in both bus powered and PCI-E power connector versions) and the RX470 4GB and GTX1060 3GB,at £180 to £190.

It will be placed halfway between both cards.

If the pound was not so weak,this would be a £120 card,and the RX460 2GB and £85 to £90,and it would have been a decent bump up in performance at both price ranges.

Sadly at £135 to £140 there is the GTX960 and R9 380,which for the UK consumer is the actual competition for this card - it won't be reflected in US reviews,but its a different reality for us here.

Its also why we don't have a £200 GTX1060 6GB or a RX480 8GB.

The GTX1060 3GB and RX470 4GB would have been closer to £150 to £160 sadly.

OFC,it will still be the best card,if you have £150 to spend. AMD somewhat failed not releasing a full fat Polaris 11 GPU for the RX460 - 896 shaders instead of 1024 shaders is a big reduction in shaders.
 
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If it is bus powered I think the major limitation will be the power limit.

However,remember even at the poor exchange rates we have today that is faster than GTX960 level performance for around £140. If the pound had been like it was when the GTX960 launched,the card would be launching at around £120. The GTX960 2GB launched at $200.
 
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The RX460 should be a GTX750Ti killer but out of all the ones I've ordered, over half have six pin power connectors - what's that about?

The beauty of the GTX750Ti was that it worked with all manner of OEM systems whose PSU's were either a) lacking a 6pin and/or b) cannot swap PSU due to proprietary design.

I know or two of the 750Ti's also had 6pins, but a lot of the RX cards seem to have them which seems stupid.

If the GTX1050 is faster and like the 750Ti operates totally off bus power, AMD will be left behind again.

The RX460 is pretty decent though in general. AMD's R7 260/360 cards were just a joke compared to the GTX750Ti though.

The full Polaris 11 GPU has 14% more shaders than the one in the RX460 and apparently AMD has made both embedded and professional cards using the full GPU with cards consuming less than 75W.

Look at the WX4100 - its bus powered,single slot and low profile:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/10521...wx-4100-wx-5100-wx-7100-bring-polaris-to-pros

It seems AMD is using all the decent Polaris 11 GPUs in embedded,professional and laptop areas.

This is why the GTX1050TI will be an easy win over the desktop RX460.

AMD should have made the 4GB RX460 a card with a full Polaris 11 GPU - they have handed Nvidia another easy victory.
 
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1050Ti is a joke of a card for that price, needs to be £30 cheaper MINIMUM

The sad thing is,most of the websites omitted the GTX960 or only used the reference GTX960 2GB. That means the normal GTX960 4GB which I have will have performance around the same I suspect.

So all we got is a lower power consumption GTX960 and yet I know mates who plonked GTX960 cards into their prebuilt PCs fine.
 
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aye, this will make nvidia and retailers a nice tidy sum if they sell like the 750 Ti did

really needs to be £130 , maybe it would have been with the pound dropping, but then again the RX 470 would have been cheaper too

I am annoyed the GTX1050 isn't cheaper - at that price the RX460 still not move that much in price. At least the GTX1050TI can claim its doing something a bit different.
 
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