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2021 was really boring on track
I knew someone would point that out but that is 3 seasons ago already and with exception to that one the seasons before it were pretty drab also.
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2021 was really boring on track
For what, unfair dismissal?I’m surprised she is still going with this and hasn’t just taken a pay off. It seems like she really intends to end up in a proper court.
What do you think Horner might have done that's actually illegal? Being a bit firty with a PA isn't.
Which bit, the WhatsApp messages?Power dynamics and sex can easily cross legal lines. And what Horner was doing hardly falls under "a bit flirty".
Which bit, the WhatsApp messages?
Having an affair with a colleague isn't illegal, cheating on your wife isn't illegal. Is there any evidence of that even so? I doubt Geri would be sticking round if there was.
Your blinkered hatred is overriding your logical brains.
Fair play to her. Perhaps she knows that if she doesn’t win then her own career is toast. So she needs to exonerate herself as much as possible. Or genuinely feels badly treated and isn’t after cash to make it go away.Hmm so according to Andrew Benson at the bbc, there have been 2 complaints to the fia so far concerning Horners behaviour. Mr MBS stated there had been no complaints and Horner is his friend.
I’m surprised she is still going with this and hasn’t just taken a pay off. It seems like she really intends to end up in a proper court.
If so they have massively misjudged the situation.
Except Horner pays her salary.. And paying someone with the expectation of hanky panky is. See how easily the lines blur? This is exactly why it never ends well for people at the top of companies sleeping with their underlings.Having an affair with a colleague isn't illegal,
Neither does Horner pay anyone's salary.The above still doesn’t make it illegal on its own….
It seems like the off track action is more spicier than the on track racing or lack thereof.
Interesting you say the woman is in danger of losing her dignity yet Horner, the millionaire CEO of the company, married to a pop star, at the pinnacle of his career, living a life of luxury - who has clearly resorted to *some* extra-curricular activities with a subordinate - is coming up golden? Interesting take…perhaps should stop whilst they still have any dignity left as they could end up making themselves totally unemployable.
LOL...Interesting you say the woman is in danger of losing her dignity yet Horner, the millionaire CEO of the company, married to a pop star, at the pinnacle of his career, living a life of luxury - who has clearly resorted to *some* extra-curricular activities with a subordinate - is coming up golden? Interesting take…
Again, your attitude is exactly why companies frown (or more) on senior staff getting involved with junior staff.
Look mate I’ve got no idea, but the timeline just follows the classic company grievance process, raise it internally, appeal, in this case raise it through another body who may have a say, if you have exhausted all other things, take it to court.For what, unfair dismissal?
What do you think Horner might have done that's actually illegal? Being a bit firty with a PA isn't.
This looks more like an internal power play at Red Bull. I wonder if Horner and the Thai owners wanted to retire Marko.
We cannot make any judgment of fact we are not privy to the facts. All we know is that as I understand it she has appealed the decision and appealed to the fia, the problem for RB is that even if they think they can win, do they want it all out in the open and what is the risk of them losing.LOL...
Yet you have not a single shred of evidence to back up your completely absurd agenda. Yet you do very much appear to be jealous of Horner's lifestyle.
But what we do have is the evidence that an independent investigation was carried out by a barrister from the highest courts in the UK which has cleared Horner of any wrongdoing, which you and others seem to completely ignore.
You couldn't make it up, oh but you just did, and again. Unfortunately it is you that is in a denial of the facts.
But please do show me any evidence that supports your conclusions.
Facts are what we have to go on, not some sad ramblings of a bitter and twisted individual who has nothing better to do in their pitiful lives.
You can't even seem to get the facts right that Horner is also an employee of Red Bull, thus he pays no-one any salary. He is not the owner..
I agree, it's a lot of 'if's' though. As far as has been reported she originally made a complaint about Horner's coercive behaviour, nothing sexual has ever been suggested by her at all and she is also angry she not been allowed to see the full report produced by the independent barrister that cleared Horner. But then neither has Horner been allowed to either, thus she's appealed against the findings.We cannot make any judgment of fact we are not privy to the facts. All we know is that as I understand it she has appealed the decision and appealed to the fia, the problem for RB is that even if they think they can win, do they want it all out in the open and what is the risk of them losing.
How we judge what we know is unimportant, the process is what matters and how far she is prepared to go.
I’m started to wonder if you’re actually Christian Horner in disguise. Your over the top defence of him is becoming embarrassing. Insulting me because I point out your terrible attitude to the woman bringing the complaint..LOL... (snip)
I suggest you read this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King's_Counsel as the barrister is a member of the King Council. Naming the barrister, what with people like you around?I’m started to wonder if you’re actually Christian Horner in disguise. Your over the top defence of him is becoming embarrassing. Insulting me because I point out your terrible attitude to the woman bringing the complaint..
You keep mentioning a barrister from the “highest court in the land” like it’s medieval times As far as I know this barrister hasn’t even been named so it’s Red Bull’s word that he/she is qualified. So no wonder people aren’t happy with the results of that “investigation “ because it was 9hrs long, we don’t know who did it, and we don’t know the outcome.
You're going a tad over the top now. We are discussing Horner and the accusation of controlling behaviour and it has not been established that it is of a sexual nature at all. Controlling behaviour from either men, or women, can take many forms.Just because something isn’t illegal doesn’t make it immoral or not an abuse of power. It seems that many people here wouldn’t have issue with a CEO or Director sending unwanted flirty, vulgar or sexual messages to their husband or wife because after all, it’s not illegal.