True. They should have been 1-2 in this race once he was past Alonso. Leclerc would probably have continued some of his bad luck but without the terrible team decisions.
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Its so true mate and reason why Hamilton has said max co drivers have been crap compared to Hamilton co drivers.
Botas more o less finished 2nd most races and roseberg won a title ahead of Hamilton.
VS...
Albon?
Perez?
Bottas was decent-ish. He was very good at qualifying, although not quite as good on race day.
I think Bottas would be doing better than Perez in that Red Bull.
Soldato
Not related to anything but I just watched Brundle's grid walk and my gaaawd the bit with Machine Gun Kelly. Honestly, what a tool
He doesn't think about his career as Eminem ended it during their beef. He was dissed so hard he quit rap and tried to become a rock musician.
Soldato
Really? Do you have links? Love you to read about that.
I mean, it's fairly common knowledge. I just listened to Killshot which is.. fine. And I like Eminem. No Vaseline by Ice Cube is still the best diss track ever.
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So... it turns out that the rules do allow unlapping (from the sporting regs):
58.4 At the two (2) minute point any cars between the safety car and the leader, in addition to any cars that had been lapped by the leader at the time the sprint session or the race was suspended, will be allowed to leave the pit lane and complete a further lap, without overtaking, enter the pit lane and then join the line of cars behind the safety car.
Which suggests there was an error in the application of the rules here.
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but from my understanding the problem with that rule is the cars were not ready to follow the safety car before the red flag came out thereby not able to unlap themselves, the restart was a formation lap not a safety car
Surprising that neither AT or Mclaren knew that. Piastri could have been on for points no?
Soldato
Under red flag they shouldn't even need to go out. Just take out X amount of fuel from the car while in the pits and job done.
*HIT EM UP by 2Pac and Ether by Nas just entered the battle* (Eminems best 'diss' track is against Mariah Carey)
sorry, back OT.
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You’re clearly not a gentleman of culture or you would have heard Fighting Trousers by Professor Elemental.
Caporegime
The safety car isn't relevant. The part that matters is "in addition to any cars that had been lapped by the leader at the time the sprint session or the race was suspended". This is supposed to happen before the formation lap.
Maybe there was a reason they couldn't - perhaps the car wasn't ready in time - or perhaps they did actually go out and we didn't see it but they were actually two laps down and only able to recover one. I'm not sure.
I certainly have. But not for years. Good call
I appreciate you posting stuff like this, so this is not aimed at you at all. But how sad that following F1 now means reading through PDFs relating to decisions incorrectly applied two races ago - because they might affect the championship standings/finishings
Is this the sport now or what... 
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forget two races ago - just wait until Massa wins his 2008 legal challenge!I appreciate you posting stuff like this, so this is not aimed at you at all. But how sad that following F1 now means reading through PDFs relating to decisions incorrectly applied two races ago - because they might affect the championship standings/finishings
Per my reply in the Off Topic thread maybe that's what they need to get their house in order... We all know if Massa wins his 2008 challenge (lol) then 2021 is a slam dunk for Hamilton.
Again, it goes back to stuff like DQ'ing Hamilton and Leclerc for "random" tests. You can't pick and choose with rules like that, that will have such a massive impact on the results. These things need to be set in stone.
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Doh, missed posting a 5/10 for last race. By far the best Max win this month. He'll need to up his game when he wins in Las Vegas to beat that one.
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If you're referring to Austin then you are incorrect as it was not random at all. The decision to test the plank thickness on those two cars was firstly based upon the ride heights submitted for the Mercedes and the Ferrari, then again secondly on the vertical movement of each car in the race.
Clearly the ride heights of those two cars were enough of a difference from the others to raise the suspicion that they were running low in an attempt to generate better downforce which in turn would lead to excessive plank wear. They then tested other cars to confirm.
If you weren't then my apologies...
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