Soldato
approx 1.3 mile according to GMaps.
Russian SU-24 - Shot Down by Turkey
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http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/11/23/uk-mideast-crisis-syria-turkey-idUKKBN0TC0HK20151123
The bear is being probed big time.
From yesterday seems to point towards turkey not enjoying the Turkmens being bombed, imo i think they had an opportunity to take a shot and did in there eyes justfied to do so.
The bear is being probed big time.
From yesterday seems to point towards turkey not enjoying the Turkmens being bombed, imo i think they had an opportunity to take a shot and did in there eyes justfied to do so.
How do you get at people hugging the Turkish border? You cannot fly a plane close to them and just turn away can you? Maybe they turned late and went a little bit into Turkeys airspace.
The thing is though, How come Russia gets shot down yet, The Al-Nusra front and other terrorists are allowed to straggle the Turkish border? The truth is they are using the border as a defense tool by slipping in and over it. If Russia had a plane inside Turkeys airspace they could never of parachuted down into Syrian territory into the hands of Turkmen unless the Turkmen are right on the border?
Fishy stuff indeed. Everyone knows ISIS operate INSIDE Turkey.
The thing is though, How come Russia gets shot down yet, The Al-Nusra front and other terrorists are allowed to straggle the Turkish border? The truth is they are using the border as a defense tool by slipping in and over it. If Russia had a plane inside Turkeys airspace they could never of parachuted down into Syrian territory into the hands of Turkmen unless the Turkmen are right on the border?
Fishy stuff indeed. Everyone knows ISIS operate INSIDE Turkey.
Soldato
So, I am calling BS on the "warned them 10 times" statement from Turkey. Ok, the jet flew through their airspace, and yes, they have a right to defend it, but there is no way they could have issued an alert 10 times, unless they issue it before they actually enter?
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So, fallout 5, now featuring photorealistic 3d graphics and "5d" functionality, smell the fire and feel the radiation actually burning your skin!
Also 1.3 miles? So at 300mph (relatively slow for this kind of aircraft) we're talking max travel time of about 15.6 seconds if my lemsip raddled brain workings are even vaguely accurate
Also 1.3 miles? So at 300mph (relatively slow for this kind of aircraft) we're talking max travel time of about 15.6 seconds if my lemsip raddled brain workings are even vaguely accurate
I thought that track seems to show that the aircraft had completed the same loop once before, and it is probable it was warned a number of times both during and after that first incursion, then again, before it re-entered.
Doing it twice smacks of deliberate and inflammatory action.
Doing it twice smacks of deliberate and inflammatory action.
Caporegime
Yayladagi is around 3km inside the Turkish border and the width of that space is around 20km..........
20km not 2. So 5 mins sound about right.
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Also it's clear in the picture of the plane falling its wings were forward so was obviously not trying to outrun the Turkish jets.
Turkey have dropped the ball with this I feel, but until the audio of the warnings and proof of visual warning have been put up by turkey then I suppose it's too early to judge. Killing 2 men for the sake of 2km and no real threat is completely unjustified in my opinion, and I expect the rest of the NATO countries to come to the same conclusion.
Look at the scale of what I posted. 5km scale indicated thats not 20km across doesnt it? Am I being retarded here?
Man of Honour
Yeah, Greece and Turkey were the first to join after it'd been set up weren't they?
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Makes a bit more sense than, 15.6 seconds across 1.3 miles seems a bit quick to fire the missile let alone issue 10 warnings first.
Soldato
Can't see this ending as more than a war of words tbh. Turkey knows they'd get a spanking on their own, Russia doesn't want to be drawn in to WW3.
Lots of stern words will be had, Russia will make threats to appease the population and Turkey gets to say that they've defended their borders.
If it happens again... then I'm going to start stockpiling canned food and twinkies
Lots of stern words will be had, Russia will make threats to appease the population and Turkey gets to say that they've defended their borders.
If it happens again... then I'm going to start stockpiling canned food and twinkies
Man of Honour
BREAKING: Erdoğan says oh no it wasn't, sticks out tongue and says there will be more of that if you try it again!?*!.
I don't think you can draw the conclusion yet until FACT is distributed regards where the plane actually went. Putin claiming it was 4km outside of Turkish airspace, Turkey claiming it entered, so until fact is proven it is hard.
The plane was likely warned prior to entering at certain thresholds, not all "10 warnings" are claimed would be issued in the seconds it was over Turkish airspace (if it actually was).
Caporegime
Look at the scale of what I posted. 5km scale indicated thats not 20km across doesnt it? Am I being retarded here?
You have looked at the very tip (of the tip of Turkey) the aircraft was flying across the wider area not the very narrow 2km part.
Soldato
that radar plot suggests it was never anywhere near Yayladagi though? Assuming it is the red line, though certainly shows 2 passes.
Man of Honour
Remember that Russia has been inside Turkish airspace before, and have been given blunt warnings that further incursions would be unacceptable.
If you play with fire, you end up getting burned.
Putin's provocations have lead up to this happening.
If you play with fire, you end up getting burned.
Putin's provocations have lead up to this happening.