Taiwan and China thread.

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It’s all odd, “you can’t film us” whilst one of them is also filming on a phone with a proper handheld mount.

It’s the take offence and then issue demands to save face. It can be used passive aggressively to get what is desired.

It is something more in asian cultural norms but in this instance it comes across being dictatorial.

The police don’t get cultural training to cope with this, same with indian or other cultures.

What is funny is they don't like being identified because to be outside of china means you need to have money or associations. It then becomes visible internally within china..

Natural thing todo is suggest to escort the Chinese through the station. As for the “incident” just leave it be.
 
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Please stop touching her! Lol

Speak about swerve the conversation.

What was the outcome?
It appeared to me to be an attempt to win the conversation by insinuating there was some kind of assault or sexual intention. When that didn't work they seemed to try the racism card. I'm glad the guy stood his ground.

The police woman at the end was shocking though; seemingly not understanding the law about filming, not initially telling him she had her camera on, asking him to stop filming so she could interview him without him recording her, and also immediately believing the story as told by the other party rather than simply asking him for his version of events before deciding any appropriate action (To quote her: "The fact of the matter is, you have been shouting communist comments"). She assumed the facts after only speaking to one of the parties.
 
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I've been seeing a few videos in the last few months about the car market in China taking huge losses as people just aren't buying as many cars anymore due to the economic conditions.

And now we have the first major casualty

The Guandong Yongao investment company, which owns 80 car dealerships in China, has gone bankrupt and all 80 dealerships have shut their doors and banks have sent in tow trucks to possess all the vehicles to try and get some of their money back

 
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can't see wiping out half of Chinas population being worth any military advantage unless ww3 actually starts and then no one would care I guess.

but just China vs Taiwan I doubt the world would accept it

"The Geneva Conventions and their protocols explicitly ban war-time attacks on "installations containing dangerous forces" such as dams."

Where does say a nuclear missile count on this scale? Is radioactive material still a dangerous force
 
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"The Geneva Conventions and their protocols explicitly ban war-time attacks on "installations containing dangerous forces" such as dams."

Where does say a nuclear missile count on this scale? Is radioactive material still a dangerous force


Please post links showing where Russians and Ukrainians have been arrested for blowing up dams in Ukraine, which has happened multiple times now. I'll wait
 
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Please post links showing where Russians and Ukrainians have been arrested for blowing up dams in Ukraine, which has happened multiple times now. I'll wait
Well I think you have to wait for one side to capture the others military personnel before they can be arrested.

Linda like saying "show me the people who got away with murder who've been arrested".

Or asking why the nuremburg trials didn't happen in 43 you have to be able to actually physically arrest the person first.
 
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Pakistan is angry that its Chinese air defense systems failed to intercept Iranian missiles in the attack on Pakistan. The Pakistan military says the system, a copy of the S300, was unable to detect and get a lock on the Iranian missiles

 
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I think we can safely say that China hasn't invaded Taiwan almost entirely because of their suspicions that it'll crumble to dust the moment they actually use any of these duds.
 
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Pakistan is angry that its Chinese air defense systems failed to intercept Iranian missiles in the attack on Pakistan. The Pakistan military says the system, a copy of the S300, was unable to detect and get a lock on the Iranian missiles

The missiles Iran used are about 6x larger signature than the smallest target the S-300 (depending a bit on variant) can handle (there are also velocity factors, etc. in there) but relatively that is towards the max capabilities of the system - depending on conditions they'd probably need the S-400, as per the video, to have good effectiveness against those kind of targets.

That is assuming the Chinese copy is even remotely close to the Russian version, which the video suggests isn't the case.
 
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Pakistan is angry that its Chinese air defense systems failed to intercept Iranian missiles in the attack on Pakistan. The Pakistan military says the system, a copy of the S300, was unable to detect and get a lock on the Iranian missiles

Guess this is what happens when you buy cheap Chinese tat and knock-offs. Wonder if they ordered their tat from AliExpress?
 
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That is assuming the Chinese copy is even remotely close to the Russian version, which the video suggests isn't the case.
It's an odd scenario all round.

Iran fired Iranian built missiles the design of which was based on reverse engineering North Korean built missiles, the design of which was based on reverse engineering Soviet built missiles of the Scud era (so theoretically a 40 year old Patriot battery should have stopped these things no problem).

Pakistan tried and failed to stop them using Chinese built SAM systems based on Soviet, American and Israeli designs.

This throws open all sorts of questions, would a "proper" S-300 have been able to stop them? Have China's western influenced "improvements" to the S-300 design actually made their variant worse? Did Iran make any special modifications to their missiles based off testing against their own S-300 systems?

In the Ukraine war it has come as no surprise that the best drones at evading Russian air defences have been the ones built by countries (I.E Turkey) who operate Soviet/Russian air defence systems.


They're quite likely CCP spies/agents:
And on today's episode of "All Asians look the same to white people", our special guest Dowie!
 
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It seems like they're fine if they're making stuff under Western supervision/design/quality control standards (such as Apple products) but it's still the case for homegrown stuff that "made in China" = absolutely naff/unreliable and all they can really do is copies/rip-offs.
 
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