What Linux Operating Systems do you like?

[LostCorpse]

i felt this was the better sub forum and thread ofr this article :

The Cloud Outgrows Linux, And Sparks A New Operating System

Ultimately, every problem in the constantly evolving IT software stack becomes a database problem, which is why there are 418 different databases and

www.nextplatform.com

for those interested.

 

[Ice Tea]

Red Hat's Long, Rust'ed Road Ahead For Nova As Nouveau Driver Successor - Phoronix

www.phoronix.com

I'll be pleasantly surprised if it's any better than the crap Nouveau drivers.

 

[Ice Tea]

Another 10 scam BitCoin wallet apps have been published in the Snap Store today.

Sigh!

Snaps didn't used to bother me but i'm now at the point that i wish they would accept that it's flawed and it should be scrapped.

 

[Throrik]

Sigh!

Snaps didn't used to bother me but i'm now at the point that i wish they would accept that it's flawed and it should be scrapped.

I wouldn't 'necessarily say the technology is at fault here, rather the governance of the store. It's a difficult one. I'm not pro-snap in any way. shape or form, but if you're going to run a store like this you need to be on top of this.

 

[Infidelus]

It might explain why the Linux Mint devs took the decision to disable snap by default, though it can be re-enabled.

 

[Ice Tea]

HMRC's Linux version of Basic PAYE Tools broke after update

Python 2 has been dead for four years

www.theregister.com

LOL, why are we so bad at everything.

 

[MatteRB26]

I've only really used Ubuntu around the 16 and 20 eras for a few months.

I tried Pop OS but that was a Trainwreck to dual boot with secure boot... I'm thinking of giving Fedora a go though

 

[FateTrap]

I learned a few operating systems and I usually see which one works best for the hardware and for the specific purpose.

PCLinuxOS -- https://www.pclinuxos.com/?page_id=180
FreeBSD -- https://www.freebsd.org/
Alpine Linux -- https://www.alpinelinux.org/
ROSA Fresh Desktop -- https://rosa.ru/rosa-linux-download-links/
mageia -- https://www.mageia.org/fr/downloads/
Gentoo -- https://www.gentoo.org/
OpenMandriva -- https://www.openmandriva.org
Clear Linux -- https://www.clearlinux.org/downloads.html
EndeavourOS -- https://endeavouros.com
OpenBSD -- https://www.openbsd.org/
ALT Linux -- https://en.altlinux.org/Regular
openSUSE -- https://www.opensuse.org
Void Linux -- https://voidlinux.org/download/
GhostBSD -- https://ghostbsd.org/
Artix Linux -- https://artixlinux.org/download.php

For Linux gaming:
https://chimeraos.org/

 

[biuro74]

OpenMandriva is not that distro which Mandrake used to be ROSA - another fork of Mandriva. Mageia - the same. Good distros end up at some point and then split in dissapointed way to split features between forks, with no reliable support or their own advantages.
Someone who invented a distro main upgrade every year should land in the hell, btw

 

[FateTrap]

OpenMandriva is not that distro which Mandrake used to be ROSA - another fork of Mandriva. Mageia - the same. Good distros end up at some point and then split in dissapointed way to split features between forks, with no reliable support or their own advantages.
Someone who invented a distro main upgrade every year should land in the hell, btw

It seems you think Mandrake was better than OpenMandriva, ROSA and mageia. However, that is not the case. Mandrake had more bugs. Mandrake also had less good desktop environments. And Mandrake had far fewer apps and also less advanced apps.
Why Mandrake was more popular may be because there was a company behind it. But it was not a better operating system than its successors are now.

I think both ALT Linux and ROSA Linux have support for RPM, Flatpak, AppImage, Nix, Snap and Guix packages. That is a huge amount of software that is in excess of 100 000 packages.
Or in other words, these systems support more than twice as many apps as the old Mandrake. All of these systems also support much more, and much better games than the old Mandrake.

 

[pete910]

think both ALT Linux and ROSA Linux have support for RPM, Flatpak, AppImage, Nix, Snap and Guix packages. That is a huge amount of software that is in excess of 100 000 packages.
Or in other words, these systems support more than twice as many apps as the old Mandrake. All of these systems also support much more, and much better games than the old Mandrake.

Yes to a point but you are comparing a distro from the 90's to today's standards, not really a fair comparison. that's akin to apple-orange

t seems you think Mandrake was better than OpenMandriva, ROSA and mageia. However, that is not the case. Mandrake had more bugs. Mandrake also had less good desktop environments. And Mandrake had far fewer apps and also less advanced apps.
Why Mandrake was more popular may be because there was a company behind it. But it was not a better operating system than its successors are now.

Again it's a history thing, the control centres in them stemed from Mandrake, IIRC other distros relied on Linuxconf. Mandrake at the time was also one of the easiest to install/partition hdd ect

Regards desktops I'd argue that Mandrake was the goto for KDE at the time!

 

[beachstud]

NixOS all the way, but it is a PITA to set up. Fedora or Ubuntu is great if you want no headache and up-to-date tools. OpenBSD for routers.

 

[biuro74]

It seems you think Mandrake was better than OpenMandriva, ROSA and mageia.

At a time. Obviously successors are technologically more developed, use newer features etc, but Mandrake was that thing you wanted, the rest was something you had to use, such a difference from my side. Successors didn't prolong that success Mandrake had at its time, it was few disappointments. I remember features that was easygoing, lightweight and made with fantasy, in latter distros it become hard, coarse, buggy, or like a copy instead of breeze of something new. I remember distros from RAID-0 user point of view, or booting screen, it's harsh to mention how it looks today in these distros, or even others

 

[FateTrap]

NixOS all the way, but it is a PITA to set up. Fedora or Ubuntu is great if you want no headache and up-to-date tools. OpenBSD for routers.

It is rather easy to install as a desktop compared to, for example, Gentoo or Alpine Linux.
The problem with NixOS is the ecological aspect.

If I compare how long a full system upgrade takes on a weak system (old Intel i3 and a standard hard drive, no SSD), NixOS takes an average of 54 times more time than Alpine Linux.
I'm using NixOS's unstable channel for this test, as the default channel lags significantly in software versions and isn't really suitable for desktop use.

My guess is that NixOS takes 54x more energy to do a full system upgrade (all apps to latest versions)
Even Gentoo can now be very ecological thanks to the binary packages.

NixOS and GNU Guix are by far the least ecological operating systems.

I'm not sure why Nix is so slow, maybe it's the Nix programming language that's very slow.
During the installation of Nix, you can also see that the installer relies a lot on Python and nixops and many other tools that NixOS uses are written in Python. Which may explain the slowness.

At GNU Guix, they made a similar basic mistake by using Guile instead of Chez Scheme, which makes many components of GNU Guix much slower than necessary.

 

[Ice Tea]

I've tried PClinuxOS a couple of times a few years ago and couldn't understand what was so special about it, Something about it felt extremely dated.

 

[FateTrap]

I've tried PClinuxOS a couple of times a few years ago and couldn't understand what was so special about it, Something about it felt extremely dated.

Some of the strengths of PCLinuxOS:
- user-friendliness
- init system in combination with XFS ensures very fast boot times of apps and games. it also gives fast boot time of the entire system
- no systemd
- RPM support
- kernel versions (not too old, but not too new either)
- software (bleeding edge software has a lot of problems, and very outdated software isn't ideal either)
- rolling system
- APT-RPM
- CPU system performance is good
- the absence of elogin
- very few bugs (not self-evident for a rolling-release model)
- active and friendly community
- PCLinuxOS added PipeWire and technologically it's pretty up-to-date
- not run/backed by corporations

It is a system that has made good choices in all areas and is therefore reasonably optimal for every purpose.

 

[Ice Tea]

Exactly why is outdated, looks like a list of strengths of someone trying to live in the past.

The world has moved on to Systemd, Wayland and most distros ditched XFS when SSDs arrived as ext4 is more secure and works better with small write blocks.

 

[Throrik]

The world has moved on to Systemd,

Still quite a lot of people against it, ah I remember the backlash when it first became standard. But if I was to use something without it now I'd go Slackware or more likely a BSD OS like FreeBSD/OpenBSD.

 

[Ice Tea]

It amuses me the amount of people that still get their pants in a twist on how much ram and hdd space is used, you would think they still lived in the 1990's

 

[Scott C]

It amuses me the amount of people that still get their pants in a twist on how much ram and hdd space is used, you would think they still lived in the 1990's

Because really the only beneficiaries of this current bloated landscape is the hardware manufacturers and not the end users