2007 Japanese GP - Race 15/17

If he wins the title, Id resign and go race indycar and proper screw up the F1 gravy train sponsorship.

The biggest sponsors where there before lewis hamilton and they will be there after lewis hamilton. All those mclaren sponsors are not there because of hamilton. Its only the British press and coverage that seems to think the whole world is interested in Hamilton.
 
The biggest sponsors where there before lewis hamilton and they will be there after lewis hamilton. All those mclaren sponsors are not there because of hamilton. Its only the British press and coverage that seems to think the whole world is interested in Hamilton.

Fully agreed, but the massive worldwide interest generated by him in just his first season not to mention the army of fans coming back to F1 must be worth millions.
 
and promptly announces a new 5 yr deal and that Ron is his real father

Meanwhile Mad Max decrees that all McLaren staff and equipment have to transfer to Ferrari and Mclaren have to use Ferrari staff and equipment, however this plan still goes wrong and McLaren win again.

And the rule here is: as long as you have Alonso in your team, your team will win the most points. ;)
 
Well of course, spyker, honda you know the secret (trouble is you need a bit more than 0.6 sec, ah well)
 
ON first watch Id say no case to answer but after a few looks they may get him on this. Not because hes doing anything wrong but because of the stupid rules they insist on making to avoid any sort of racing/excitement.

As long as he goes into the hearing with the stewards and maintains that he took a wide line because he honestly believed that his car was getting away from him, so he wanted to keep as straight a line as possible. He should easily get away with it. He must stipulate that he honestly believed that if he braked hard, without going wide, he felt he might smash into safety car OR spin, thus creating an accident with the closely following Webber and Vettel.

"Guv...I had to go wide, otherwise I would've caused a massive accident."

I would stick to that story. Even if he is going down for it, stick to it. He must never admit that he was being reckless. McLaren will brief him on this anyway.
 
Seriously doubt anything will come of this. Hamilton winning the title this year is worth many millions, maybe billions to F1 and their sponsors. Maybe he shouldn't have slowed down so much but no way is the accident his fault - he can't be responsible for the cars behind him.
 
As long as he goes into the hearing with the stewards and maintains that he took a wide line because he honestly believed that his car was getting away from him, so he wanted to keep as straight a line as possible. He should easily get away with it. He must stipulate that he honestly believed that if he braked hard, without going wide, he felt he might smash into safety car OR spin, thus creating an accident with the closely following Webber and Vettel. .

Are you even watching the clip?

How can he say that he was running wide as the car was getting away from him, when he has already took a tighter line into the first apex of the start of the S????????????????????

He goes much tighter than the racing line then stays out wide. He had shed his speed, for the next part of the S he didnt even try to speed back up.

Watch it again....

 
Lets hope it is just spin.

Can't say I saw anything wrong in Hamilton's driving, I think he drove like a pro throughout the whole race even Shuey, or Senna couldn't of done any better.

If they penalise Hamilton for this I don't think I'll be watching F1 next year, too much politics & not enough racing these days.
 
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Might aswell wade into my first F1 thread. Its difficult to pin the blame on Hamilton, yes he slowed and went wide but what was his other choice. He could have just slowed and got punted up the backside by Webber or he could have gone into the safety car. Vettel was clearly going abit on the fast side and watching the wrong car he should have been watching the car infront of him. Conditions were tough, thats clear yes Hamilton slowing contributed but what else was he to do?
 
If they penalise Hamilton for this I don't think I'll be watching F1 next year, too much politics & not enough racing these days.

Thats because it will have picked on a driver you like, nothing to do with the politics. F1 has been like this with politics for as long as I can remember.

Chances are you didn't care because it wasn't a driver you liked.

For as long as I've been watching and reading F1 it's been about 70% politics, 30% racing.

Yet now people are making a fuss because they think Golden boy might get some stick.
 
Might aswell wade into my first F1 thread. Its difficult to pin the blame on Hamilton, yes he slowed and went wide but what was his other choice. He could have just slowed and got punted up the backside by Webber or he could have gone into the safety car. Vettel was clearly going abit on the fast side and watching the wrong car he should have been watching the car infront of him. Conditions were tough, thats clear yes Hamilton slowing contributed but what else was he to do?

Webber and Vettel wouldnt have hit if Hamilton hadnt slowed. Its probably more Webbers fault than most because he clearly worried about passing Hamilton under a safety car.

Personally i'd like to see Webbers braking trace too. Vettel closes really fast on webber once webber gets alongside Hamilton. Personally I'd bet webber lifted.
 
No the wouldnt but he had little choice to slow, he was quicker through the corner than the SC and had to slow to avoid overtaking it. He could have slowed on-line and he would have been hit too instead he moved off line and the rest is history. Im sure there were many near misses under the SC during the race, its racing. I cant remeber if anyone was punished after the monaco SC incident afew seasons back?
 
No the wouldnt but he had little choice to slow, he was quicker through the corner than the SC and had to slow to avoid overtaking it. He could have slowed on-line and he would have been hit too instead he moved off line and the rest is history. Im sure there were many near misses under the SC during the race, its racing. I cant remeber if anyone was punished after the monaco SC incident afew seasons back?

No he wouldnt have been hit by webber, webber slowed to stop himself passing hamilton under SC.

If he was quicker than the safety car through the corner then thats Hamiltons mistake.
 
Are you even watching the clip?

How can he say that he was running wide as the car was getting away from him, when he has already took a tighter line into the first apex of the start of the S????????????????????

He goes much tighter than the racing line then stays out wide. He had shed his speed, for the next part of the S he didnt even try to speed back up.

Watch it again....


Right, he did take a tighter line and moved wide (right). He couldve done this to avoid hitting the safety car. His excuse would be: "Guv, I was going too quickly, so I thought I had to brake. While this happened, I thought I saw a puddle of water and new that would create problems for me, so I decided to take a wide line and do a sharp right. Sorry Guv, but I thought I was going to cause an accident, so I had to take appropriate action. It was move I implemented purely in the interests of safety."

Any good?

Keep in mind that before Hamilton is questioned over this, the McLaren people will fill his ears with what to say and give a valid reason that cannot be disproved and will get him off. I would be absolutely shocked if the FIA make this one stick.
 
gordon bennet Some bloke drove into me from behind but it was the fault of some other bloke in front over the other side of the track ..... that's a new way of looking at things

They need to make sure there is no flag waving and no scantily clad girls during the race because the drivers might lose concentration and randomly drive into each other
 
No he wouldnt have been hit by webber, webber slowed to stop himself passing hamilton under SC.

If he was quicker than the safety car through the corner then thats Hamiltons mistake.


So webber will have slowed regardless and vettel would still have hit him then, so net result they are both still out. On that basis there would have been a crash whatever hamilton did.
 
Webber was well within 5 car lengths of Hamilton. The accident was his fault - he should shut up whining about it.
 
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