Morrisons FTL

droolinggimp said:
I said this would happen in a previous thread. :) Staff have 100% backing from management.
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Absolutely not what happened when I was in Morissons the other day. There was a guy buying Whisky. Must have been about 40, and he was with his two daughters. The lady at the checkout asked for his ID, and he went mental at her. Got pretty insulting at one point calling her a jobsworth and swearing etc. Anyway, she called the manager who just said "He's obviously over 18" and that was that. Then he gave the poor checkout woman another load of abuse for wasting his time. Not really fair and I felt quite sorry for her. She did say to him repeatedly "I'm just doing my job."
 
NokkonWud said:
When did you start needing to be 21 to get Alcohol anyway?
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You don't need to be but all alcohol sales are at the discretion of the store anyway, as long as I didn't discriminate against you on certain proscribed grounds I could refuse to sell you alcohol for any reason.

I think the reasoning for the "think 21" campaign is that while 18 is the legal age to purchase alcohol it can be difficult to tell a 16 year old from an 18 year old sometimes but usually if someone looks over 21 they will be over 18. It isn't exact obviously but it does give staff cause to think on who they are serving and may prevent a few extra underage sales which is no bad thing. As has been mentioned before all that was necessary to say was "yes I am over 21" and that probably would have been enough, if he was still refused service then and no reason given that might have been a reason to take offence.
 
We always buy alcohol from our local Morrisons here, and have never been ID'd here. We all look about our age too (19/20)!
 
I'll just mention this again to stop the confusion with Morrisons -

This is not a Morrisons policy but a policy made up by the police and Trading Standards.
Every store is on a 3 strikes and out so Morrisons have been ordered to do this.
There are several stores that are very close to losing their alcohol licenses so the police and Trading Standards have told them to ask everybody.
They already run a 'looking over 21' policy so if you're 18 and look over 21 they will ask you to confirm your age.
If you look under 21 they will ask for ID.
Of course, some stores are playing russian roulette by not asking for ID and officers are around every corner.
(My sister is a manageress).
 
This is symptomatic of the nanny state cancer that is destroying this society. No longer can an adult woman make a decision because the power to exercise discretion has been removed. The man is clearly over 21 so the woman had no right to challenge him.

The feeble excuse about trying to clamp down on underage drinking is laughable becuase, as mentioned above, silly rules have replaced peoples' ability to take responsibility and clearly, from the packs of drunken, feral youth plauging our streets, it doesn't work.

I would have kicked up an even bigger fuss if it was me, despite my boyish charm. ;)
 
:D

The other night I was in Tesco and picked up a copy of that DVD where Kelly Brook gets her baps out, Three I think its called. Not wanting to put £3 on my credit card I chucked it in with my mates stuff and told him I'd settle up later. The old girl on the checkout put through two cases of Lager and a case of Strongbow then when she got to the DVD she said-
"are you 18"
"no"
"oh"
*quite a long pause*
"oh" (again)
"no love I'm 25"
"oh, ok. I had to ask because the till told me to"
"so what about the beer then?"
"oh..... the till didn't tell me to ask"

:p poor old girl, not the sharpest tool in the box :o
 
AJUK said:
The feeble excuse about trying to clamp down on underage drinking is laughable becuase, as mentioned above, silly rules have replaced peoples' ability to take responsibility and clearly, from the packs of drunken, feral youth plauging our streets, it doesn't work.
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But the problem is that the staff who let the underage drinkers buy the stuff thought they were legal so to combat this the police and Trading Standards have come up with a cunning plan to have the staff just ask - simple.
Everyone off the hook.
 
He confirms he is over 21 then would probably be asked for proof which is plain stupid as he looks like your stereotypical grandad. It's just pure common sense, nothing else. No wonder he felt offended and embarrassed, being lumped in the catorgory of an under 18 rowdy youth. It makes it far worse that the person asking was probably far younger than him.
 
when I worked for a well known supermarket I once asked a customer if he was over 18 in jest, he obviously was I think, I may of even known him, I was told that now I had asked him, he had to produce I.D. and couldn't so I got into big trouble!
 
I don't understand why the government and trading standards are being blamed here. I assume that she has some discretion, as dmpoole has said they will ask to confirm your age if you look over 21:

"They already run a 'looking over 21' policy so if you're 18 and look over 21 they will ask you to confirm your age."

She didn't do that, she asked to prove his age and used no discretion which I assume she would still be allowed to use.
 
when I worked for a well known supermarket I once asked a customer if he was over 18 in jest, he obviously was I think, I may of even known him, I was told that now I had asked him, he had to produce I.D. and couldn't so I got into big trouble!
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Same in SPAR. Thank god I'm out of that hole now :)
 
Lostkat said:
Absolutely not what happened when I was in Morissons the other day. There was a guy buying Whisky. Must have been about 40, and he was with his two daughters. The lady at the checkout asked for his ID, and he went mental at her. Got pretty insulting at one point calling her a jobsworth and swearing etc. Anyway, she called the manager who just said "He's obviously over 18" and that was that. Then he gave the poor checkout woman another load of abuse for wasting his time. Not really fair and I felt quite sorry for her. She did say to him repeatedly "I'm just doing my job."
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trouble is customers dont understand that kind of thing, the first time i asked (an 18 year old couple as it happened) i was called a ******* **** (rhymes with bucking punt ;)) it's enough to put you off the job

oh, and i ID'd a police woman once (she was 19/20 and out of uniform) who looked about 18, so i ID her and she goes of one one about knowing all the laws and theres no such thing about this 'think 21 bullocks' so i calmly continued to ask for ID or i'd refuse sale, so after 5 minutes of arguing she pulls out here police ID thing, and i said 'sorry, we do not consider that to be a valid for of ID, do you have a drivers license, passport or ID with the pass logo on?' she promptly walked of swearing :D

sainsburys seems to be better at this poplicy form the sounds of it (ie we stick completely to the think 21 scheme as opposed to asking EVERYONE if they are over 18)
 
Morrisons have the best range of decent ales than any of the supermarkets at the best price (4 bottles for a fiver) as well.

They also change their stocks regularly so I can almost always find new beers to try when I go there.

Talking of which, I think I shall pop into the local one on my way home. It is Friday after all :)
 
Becasue the local store in our town keeps getting grief for serving either under age OR to someone getting it for underage, they started to ask for ID for anyone looking under 30.

Worked a treat cos all the old boys could go in and have a banter with the girls in the shop.

Dirty old men!!!!
 
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