When there will be available more powerful cards?

Rroff · 21 Nov 2007 at 14:22

Ultra high settings are prefectly playable at 1280x or 1440x with 2x 8800GT SLI and a core 2 duo at 3+GHz and 2gigs of RAM but even then your average framerate is around 50...

Any one thinking they are playing at ultra high settings on even a single 8800 Ultra at 1920x res and getting an acceptable framerate is deluding themselves... "oh noes my £400 graphics card nooo I must be seeing this wrong"

gizmoy2k · 21 Nov 2007 at 15:11

Dist said:
Stop expecting games companys to just think about making a game for NOW! They have to make the game good for the future, and crysis has done that by implementing graphics that will be playable/better in the future.

Sorry but i dont agree ANY company is in it to make money so why release something that the average joe cant even play properly. Would nvidia release a graphics card if there wasnt a motherboard in the world that would support it, i think not!
Also who do you think is going to go and replay/buy singleplayer crysis in 2 years time when its playable on V.High? I mean we will probably be playin Crysis 2 by then an waitin till 2012 for the hardware to play it

I bought it but im not playing a slide show, waiting on SLi patch which i hope makes a difference.
Recent releases like Bioshock, COD4 and UT3 show that a game can look great and run at 60fps,

Personally id rather it looked a little worse but was actually enjoyable to play,
The gameplay aspects ie the suit are great

lettuce · 21 Nov 2007 at 15:41

Well if you ask me its just PC programmers being lazy, and not even bother trying to optimize code, thats why in my eyes console programmers are more than worth their salt, as they have a certain limited hardware to work with and they have to get the best out of that hardware, and the results they manage are staggering really

TheDean · 21 Nov 2007 at 16:13

JackRegan said:
Is it too much to expect PC game devs to code a game as well as console devs do?

You have no idea do you? lol

Gashman · 21 Nov 2007 at 16:13

balls said:
Same here, even with 4aa, so I'm sure there are some out there with SLi'd gtx's etc who are maxing it

how are you doing that exactly, my CPU is clocked higher, my GPU is clocked higher and high settings is horribly jerky, anyone care to enlighten me?

MumboJumbo · 21 Nov 2007 at 16:21

gizmoy2k said:
Sorry but i dont agree ANY company is in it to make money so why release something that the average joe cant even play properly. Would nvidia release a graphics card if there wasnt a motherboard in the world that would support it, i think not!
Also who do you think is going to go and replay/buy singleplayer crysis in 2 years time when its playable on V.High? I mean we will probably be playin Crysis 2 by then an waitin till 2012 for the hardware to play it

I bought it but im not playing a slide show, waiting on SLi patch which i hope makes a difference.
Recent releases like Bioshock, COD4 and UT3 show that a game can look great and run at 60fps,

Personally id rather it looked a little worse but was actually enjoyable to play,
The gameplay aspects ie the suit are great

None of you are getting it. They want to make a trillagy. That means 3 games. that means multiply years. That means they want to get it the best possible now so that when the next one comes out they have less to do. Why should they down play a game so that they can then only redo all the graphics engines for the next one. They will almost certainly tweek it but it makes no sence to do what you say.

Further more i beleive once sli is sorted the game will be able to be maxed out. You are all really starting to irritate me.

OOO it doesn't run top quality no game has ever come out like that no game should do. Well a lot of games do which are cutting edge. Youd rather them take ultra high off clearly because thats all that would happen. Its not possible to run ultra high now so your saying take it off.

Alll your arguements are sayimng is ooo they shouldn't release a game we cant play. Fine take ultra high off. That make you happy? That is all you are arguing it is pointless so shut the hell up and get on with your life.

gizmoy2k · 21 Nov 2007 at 16:24

hehe

got to you a bit there

8igdave said:
Further more i beleive once sli is sorted the game will be able to be maxed out. You are all really starting to irritate me.

I hope your right, seems you are easily irritated, especially when people dont agree with you opinion,
Forums all over the net are full of crysis threads, most of which seem to end up with this kinda reaction, Just a game people just a game.

JackRegan · 21 Nov 2007 at 16:28

TheDean said:
You have no idea do you? lol

?

It is quotes like this that make my blood boil! If you've got something to say, then say it, don't just type a few lines of meaningless text as bait then end it with a lol

Manners exist in forums as well as face to face. At the end of the day you only know me by what I type and I only know you from what you type. I have put what I think, what did you type?

UKDTweak · 21 Nov 2007 at 16:31

You are lacking knowledge in what you comment, console devs know exactly what hardware they have to use and thus code for, pc devs do not, no two pc's are identical, some have 1gb ram, others have 2 or 4gb, different spec vga cards, different sound cards etc... starting to see a pattern yet?

lettuce · 21 Nov 2007 at 16:41

UKDTweak said:
You are lacking knowledge in what you comment, console devs know exactly what hardware they have to use and thus code for, pc devs do not, no two pc's are identical, some have 1gb ram, others have 2 or 4gb, different spec vga cards, different sound cards etc... starting to see a pattern yet?

Agreed, but then they should set a min spec and optimise the code so the game can run 'Well' on High settings on that spec ie, 1.8-2.0GHz, 1GB RAM, 256Meg GFX Card CPU, thus not having to sacrfic graphics. I know this would never happen however. COD4 is case in hand, Runs at 60fps on the 360 and looks wounderful, i tried running it on my PC (AMD X2 4800, 3GB RAM, 7900GTX 512), it run nowhere near as smoothly or had any of the graphic effects as the 360

UKDTweak · 21 Nov 2007 at 16:46

Lettuce
but then they should set a min spec and optimise the code

But how do the dev decide what should be the min spec, there are millions of different pc configurations to choose from? were would they begin?

JackRegan · 21 Nov 2007 at 16:46

If you read my posts, that's the point I'm making.

You get given say a spec to work to, consoles have to stick to it and make it work well. Now PC wise can the same be said for Crytek?

And the argument of well in 6/12 months there will be better hardware/drivers out, well there will be new games out then.

So IMO I am not lacking in knowledge with my comments, I can even remember the ZX80 days of

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UKDTweak · 21 Nov 2007 at 16:49

You missed the point,

Firstly.... Millions of possible pc configurations!!!

and Secondly, Crytec created the engine for use In Future games not just Crysis....

MumboJumbo · 21 Nov 2007 at 16:51

gizmoy2k said:
hehe

got to you a bit there

I hope your right, seems you are easily irritated, especially when people dont agree with you opinion,
Forums all over the net are full of crysis threads, most of which seem to end up with this kinda reaction, Just a game people just a game.

Its not that you dont agree with me i dont care. But its when peopel are going around having a huge go at them saying OOO NO IT DOESN@T work shouldn't have been released bla bla bla. When the truth is all they are saying is take off ultra settings. Its just stupid.

I my self am annoyed that we were fed some lies but im not going to cry to the world about it.

Tom|Nbk · 21 Nov 2007 at 16:53

8igdave said:
so shut the hell up and get on with your life.

I think you should take some of your own advice for once..

MumboJumbo · 21 Nov 2007 at 17:05

Tom|Nbk said:
I think you should take some of your own advice for once..

I could have expected a pointless dig from you. Contributing nothing. Do you not agree with what i have to say? I presume you dont purely because you would rather argue against me.

JackRegan · 21 Nov 2007 at 17:06

I must be missing something here.

Agreed there is 1000's of possible pc specs you can have and there always will be.

At what hardware level did they aim Crysis at? Was it for todays PC gamer? Do FPS gamers consider 15/25 frames silky smooth?

I take it you like Crysis and think they have one a good job with the game for the PC? As a PC gamer and seeing more and more people move over to consoles I still stand by post #12.

We will have to agree to differ.

MumboJumbo · 21 Nov 2007 at 17:08

JackRegan said:
I must be missing something here.

Agreed there is 1000's of possible pc specs you can have and there always will be.

At what hardware level did they aim Crysis at? Was it for todays PC gamer? Do FPS gamers consider 15/25 frames silky smooth?

I take it you like Crysis and think they have one a good job with the game for the PC? As a PC gamer and seeing more and more people move over to consoles I still stand by post #12.

We will have to agree to differ.

You still dont get it.

What game are you comparing this too? Counter strike? Would you expect the source engine to be running 60+ frames if it looked like crysis does with a big rich world like it does?

You people are arguing with no reason. You want to compare it to "inferiour" games when it comes to how well they look, how big they are, complicated phyiscs etc. Then paly the game like them. Tkae everything down to low and then compare.

Tom|Nbk · 21 Nov 2007 at 17:18

8igdave said:
I could have expected a pointless dig from you. Contributing nothing. Do you not agree with what i have to say? I presume you dont purely because you would rather argue against me.

Surprisingly enough I do agree with you, but telling people to shut up and throwing a hissy fit gets you no where.

But as always this thread was always going to go one way, hence why I don't bother in here anymore, your's and others post's are becoming such a chore to read I just cba anymore.

MumboJumbo · 21 Nov 2007 at 17:19

Tom|Nbk said:
Surprisingly enough I do agree with you, but telling people to shut up and throwing a hissy fit gets you no where.

But this thread was always going to go one way, hence why I don't bother in here anymore, your's and others post's are becoming such a chore to read I just cba anymore.

Such a chore yet you read it and even felt the need to comment on it. Aww im touched.