Uh-oh. PS3 'Orange Box' fails.

wannabedamned said:
@Damarus

Ive seen them sporting bluray in their adverts, which is the norm for an advertisement is it not? Show off something good your product has?

Why would they ever say "this can also be done on a dvd9 console"
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They shouldn't and don't need to say anything about it, especially on adverts showing off the games. If they want to advertise the fact it has a blu-ray, then do so on a separate advert and tell the customers that they can play blu-ray movies, don't lie to people saying it makes the game better because not everyone is clueless and will pick up on it.

As robgmun says, the Assassins Creed advert is brilliantly well done and makes me want to buy the game even though I've read a few bad things about it. The PS3 adverts just make me want to stab the marketing morons at Sony in the face with a rusty pitchfork.

They should be concentrating on trying to sell the games, not the hardware. Once people start wanting a few games for the PS3 they'll take the dive and buy the console, the console will basically sell itself.

Yes, this is made somewhat more difficult by the fact the PS3 doesn't actually have any decent games.
 
Damarus said:
They should be concentrating on trying to sell the games, not the hardware. Once people start wanting a few games for the PS3 they'll take the dive and buy the console, the console will basically sell itself.
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I disagree, the price is too high to just concentrate on the games, they have to sell the machine as well.

There isn't anyone who will spend 400 euro so they can just play Ratchet & Clank.

And if the Xbox 360 would have a built-in HD DVD drive I am sure Microsoft would do exactly the same.
 
Damarus said:
They shouldn't and don't need to say anything about it, especially on adverts showing off the games. If they want to advertise the fact it has a blu-ray, then do so on a separate advert and tell the customers that they can play blu-ray movies, don't lie to people saying it makes the game better because not everyone is clueless and will pick up on it.
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Blu-ray isnt just for playing movies though! If a game is over 9Gb, which Ratchet & Clank probably is, its likely theyre going to advertise the use of blu-ray surley? As theoretically the game wouldnt of been possible? Maybe when higher capacity discs are the norm like DVD is/was, then it will not be feasible to advertise it.
 
Dutch Guy said:
I disagree, the price is too high to just concentrate on the games, they have to sell the machine as well.
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But they wont sell the machine unless it has games the customer wants. I honestly believe that the majority of people after a PS3 don't really care about the blu-ray player.

Nanoman said:
Blu-ray isnt just for playing movies though! If a game is over 9Gb, which Ratchet & Clank probably is, its likely theyre going to advertise the use of blu-ray surley? As theoretically the game wouldnt of been possible? Maybe when higher capacity discs are the norm like DVD is/was, then it will not be feasible to advertise it.
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I very much doubt ratchet & clank is over 9gb.. And even if it was I had no problems changing CDs/DVDs in the past and I'm sure I wouldn't have any problems in the future too. I think people often forgot that you can use multiple CDs for a game and that it was done so often in the PS1/PS2 days.
 
Damarus said:
I very much doubt ratchet & clank is over 9gb.. And even if it was I had no problems changing CDs/DVDs in the past and I'm sure I wouldn't have any problems in the future too. I think people often forgot that you can use multiple CDs for a game and that it was done so often in the PS1/PS2 days.
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Thats kinda missing the point in terms of Sony advertising Blu-ray but you'd choose to swap discs rather than not?:confused:
 
yeh, i'd rather not swap discs but swapping discs doesn't and never has really bothered me. the point i'm trying to make is that it doesn't make the games any better and the games don't need blu-ray to work.

I realise I sound quite anti-PS3 but I'm not really, I think it's a great piece of kit and for what you get it's probably better value than a 360 ... it's just I feel some of the things such as blu-ray were not really needed and all it does is jack up the price of the console for people who just want to play games.
 
Damarus said:
I realise I sound quite anti-PS3 but I'm not really, I think it's a great piece of kit and for what you get it's probably better value than a 360 ... it's just I feel some of the things such as blu-ray were not really needed and all it does is jack up the price of the console for people who just want to play games.
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You dont sound anti-PS3, and I agree, the year wait that Sony took in order to get Blu-ray out was probably not worth it! They would have established a much larger customer base in that time and wouldnt be having as many issues now, DVD disc swap is also an option they should have considered. But imo I think the space is starting to be needed now, as HD content is ever more popular and games are easily exceeding 9Gb, I read somewhere that Ratchet & Clank was actually 25Gb, which is obviously more than 2 DVDs. :)
 
wyrdo said:
OH MY GOD 360 LOVER!
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christ no, never owned one and i wont untill they sort their little production issues out. ive had a ps3 since launch. people here saw it as a very expensive gaming console, and rightly so. i saw it as a very cheap (and the best) bluray player / media player / cd player / sacd player / picture viewer.....and gaming console. i do love my ps3, but thats because i use every feature on it. if i'd have just bought it for gaming, i would have been thoroughly let down.
 
james.miller said:
christ no, never owned one and i wont untill they sort their little production issues out. ive had a ps3 since launch. people here saw it as a very expensive gaming console, and rightly so. i saw it as a very cheap (and the best) bluray player / media player / cd player / sacd player / picture viewer.....and gaming console. i do love my ps3, but thats because i use every feature on it. if i'd have just bought it for gaming, i would have been thoroughly let down.
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I know, I was being silly :p Just poking some fun at another thread that's gone a bit mental.
 
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