getting engaged... where to buy the ring

great do you know an auction this side of crimbo in london?.......

Well considering I live in Dundee, no. However, there are about 3 auctions up here between now and Christmas, all within 25 miles, and all include Jewellery. I'm betting theres some in a city of > 5 million people too ;)
 
p.s not quite sure your maths add up there....

Made up prices alert:

1.5 carat stone - £6000 at a jeweller
1.5 carat stone - £1500 at auction

You can either spend 1/4 the amount at auction (£1500 being 1/4 of £6000)

Or get a ring which is 4X better (i.e. you get a £6000 ring at auction which would cost in the region of £24,000 at a jeweller.

Prices are made up, YMMV etc
 
Just to chip in with this...

I bought my Wife an engagement ring a few years ago and I didn't pay that much for it (in the end got it for free because they forgot to put the transaction through on my card :D). I'm now looking at replacing it because the quality was very poor. I always felt a bit bad not spending much on it when I was earning a decent wage, but now the rings at the stage where it gets deformed if she grips on something too tight. This is for a white gold ring that is only 4 years old.

I'm now looking to get her a 'proper' ring now that I've got the money spare to do it. I just wish I'd have done this straight away and not been cheap about it. Looking back I don't think its fair for me to spend <£500 on a ring for her thats meant to last a lifetime and she will happily spend >£2000 on a watch for me.

Although you might think its a bit steep, spend more money now as its something she should have for the rest of her life.
 
Just to chip in with this...

I bought my Wife an engagement ring a few years ago and I didn't pay that much for it (in the end got it for free because they forgot to put the transaction through on my card :D). I'm now looking at replacing it because the quality was very poor. I always felt a bit bad not spending much on it when I was earning a decent wage, but now the rings at the stage where it gets deformed if she grips on something too tight. This is for a white gold ring that is only 4 years old.

I'm now looking to get her a 'proper' ring now that I've got the money spare to do it. I just wish I'd have done this straight away and not been cheap about it. Looking back I don't think its fair for me to spend <£500 on a ring for her thats meant to last a lifetime and she will happily spend >£2000 on a watch for me.

Although you might think its a bit steep, spend more money now as its something she should have for the rest of her life.

the rate at wich she is going at the wedding planning before ive asked her to marry me she wont live till the honeymoon!:)
 
Just to chip in with this...

I bought my Wife an engagement ring a few years ago and I didn't pay that much for it (in the end got it for free because they forgot to put the transaction through on my card :D). I'm now looking at replacing it because the quality was very poor. I always felt a bit bad not spending much on it when I was earning a decent wage, but now the rings at the stage where it gets deformed if she grips on something too tight. This is for a white gold ring that is only 4 years old.

I'm now looking to get her a 'proper' ring now that I've got the money spare to do it. I just wish I'd have done this straight away and not been cheap about it. Looking back I don't think its fair for me to spend <£500 on a ring for her thats meant to last a lifetime and she will happily spend >£2000 on a watch for me.

Although you might think its a bit steep, spend more money now as its something she should have for the rest of her life.
Money is all relative. If she can afford to spend £2000 on an engagement watch for you, whilst you can only afford to spend £500 on a ring for her, then for her not to be happy with that would indicate she doesn't really love you.

As for total cost, well spending that kind of money on something that has a good chance of ending in divorce (there were 171,700 last year for example - as high as 14 in 1,000) seems nonsensical to me. Spend it on something useful, not a piece of metal.
 
Money is all relative. If she can afford to spend £2000 on an engagement watch for you, whilst you can only afford to spend £500 on a ring for her, then for her not to be happy with that would indicate she doesn't really love you.

It wasn't an engagement watch, it was just a present. Our situation hadn't changed much between the time I gave her the ring and when I got my watch. It all came down to me thinking 'That will do' and I don't think that is the right way to think about it.

As for total cost, well spending that kind of money on something that has a good chance of ending in divorce (there were 171,700 last year for example - as high as 14 in 1,000) seems nonsensical to me. Spend it on something useful, not a piece of metal.

If divorce comes into your head when your buying an engagement ring then you shouldn't be getting married. Ever.
 
Money is all relative. If she can afford to spend £2000 on an engagement watch for you, whilst you can only afford to spend £500 on a ring for her, then for her not to be happy with that would indicate she doesn't really love you.

As for total cost, well spending that kind of money on something that has a good chance of ending in divorce (there were 171,700 last year for example - as high as 14 in 1,000) seems nonsensical to me. Spend it on something useful, not a piece of metal.

Lots of people think rings are useful and worth it though. I think you have to accept that not everyone is as cynical as you about marriage. I'm not having a dig at you but I've noticed that a lot in your posts on the subject.
 
trust me she isnt getting two months salary lol
I think unless you have an incredible amount of disposable cash two months salary on a ring is ridiculous.

Makes you think, if the woman you are marrying would prefer you spent that amount of cash on a ring rather than a years worth or mortgage repayments do you actually want to be married to her? :p
 
Useful is a relative term.
Would this be one of those several times once removed types of relative? :p

Just kiddin, yes having a good engagement ring is nice and spending £1-3K on one I can understand (assuming it’s not affecting any other personal budgets/commitments), but spending larger amounts like 2 months wages purely because that’s the tradition/expected thing hardly screams love and romance.
 
I think unless you have an incredible amount of disposable cash two months salary on a ring is ridiculous.

Makes you think, if the woman you are marrying would prefer you spent that amount of cash on a ring rather than a years worth or mortgage repayments do you actually want to be married to her? :p

And who says romance is dead!
 
Lots of people think rings are useful and worth it though. I think you have to accept that not everyone is as cynical as you about marriage. I'm not having a dig at you but I've noticed that a lot in your posts on the subject.
And I've noticed that you seem to have a romantic view on the subject, which isn't necessarily in touch with reality. Yes I'm cynical, but I'm also realistic.

Other then perhaps a makeshift/emergency bottle opener, or some part in an inconceivably wacky device that is built on the spur of the moment to stop an air plane from depressurising, what tangible use does a ring have?

Just kiddin, yes having a good engagement ring is nice and spending £1-3K on one I can understand (assuming it’s not affecting any other personal budgets/commitments), but spending larger amounts like 2 months wages purely because that’s the tradition/expected thing hardly screams love and romance.
Exactly. Its nice, but it is not useful.

If divorce comes into your head when your buying an engagement ring then you shouldn't be getting married. Ever.
Do you think the 171,000 couples that got divorced last year went into marriage thinking they'd get divorced? I doubt it very much. Spend it on something useful. I'd hedge my bets that a lot of marriages fail due to financial strain - spending £1k+ on an engagement ring is a somewhat rambunctious display of frivolity when it could be spent on things that are needed.
 
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£1-3K is two months wages for most average people...

Ever heard of SAVING UP? FFS. Some people think that you need to get into debt to come up with money. If you want to spend several thousand on a ring, feel free - it is quite possible to save up for it without impacting on your mortgage payments!
 
And I've noticed that you seem to have a romantic view on the subject, which isn't necessarily in touch with reality. Yes I'm cynical, but I'm also realistic.

Other then perhaps a makeshift/emergency bottle opener, or some part in an inconceivably wacky device that is built on the spur of the moment to stop an air plane from depressurising, what tangible use does a ring have?

Exactly. Its nice, but it is not useful.

Do you think the 171,000 couples that got divorced last year went into marriage thinking they'd get divorced? I doubt it very much. Spend it on something useful. I'd hedge my bets that a lot of marriages fail due to financial strain - spending £1k+ on an engagement ring is a somewhat rambunctious display of frivolity when it could be spent on things that are needed.

Well we've been together for nearly 10 years and have 3 children, it's working just fine so far with my romantic views thanks. I'd rather be optimistic and have romantic thoughts about marriage than cynical and pessimistic any day. To me marriage is sacred and it means we won't be getting divorced. You clearly don't hold the views and that's fine but you don't have to bring everyone else down with you.

We've been through a lot in all our years together and it's only made us stronger as a couple. We both love each other a lot and we're totally open about everything and share everything. Anyway, I don't have to defend marrige or my own marrige, I know we'll last just as plenty of other marriages last.
 
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