which one, there are lost of different ones some with lots f extra people some with just 12 other, all of whom are men, some with a woman, some with many. How many do the gospels say where there?
why do we blank out the word god?
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which one, there are lost of different ones some with lots f extra people some with just 12 other, all of whom are men, some with a woman, some with many. How many do the gospels say where there?
That is Bassano's last supper, not Da Vinci's Last Supper, which can be seen here clearly depicts a woman. Why would Judas be portrayed as a woman?
I couldn't answer either way in any event, I don't profess to have studied all of the gospels
Which Gospels?
I couldn't answer either way in any event, I don't profess to have studied all of the gospels
Didn't you realize? Religion started out as joke. Jebus, vishnu, mo, they're laughing they're almighty asses off at us
...and the bible is nothing more than metaphor and allegory but you seem to follow it perfectly well
That is Bassano's last supper, not Da Vinci's Last Supper, which can be seen here clearly depicts a woman. Why would Judas be portrayed as a woman?
Which Gospels?
I couldn't answer either way in any event, I don't profess to have studied all of the gospels
i don't know the painting too well, so I dont know what it is supposed to show, but during the course (no pun intended) of the last super, Judas leaves half way through, which may explain why there is not 12 apostles.
...and the bible is nothing more than metaphor and allegory but you seem to follow it perfectly well
another one of your opinions. largely based on incorrect naive asumption.
1. Yes, it is an opinion. One as valid as anyone else's.
2. Incorrect? Show me where.
3. Naive? I do not agree that I am the one being naive here.
4. Assumption? Not on your nelly.
You're getting dangerously close to sounding like a zealot. You assume that the bible tells the truth, I state that it is a half-truth at best. Who are you to say that I am wrong and you are right?
I feel that you are not really intrested in what I have to say, even if i were to give you solid evidence you would still deny it.
I will not waste anymore time unless you convince me otherwise?
and you are naive concerning christian points of view.
you are incorrect in that an acount of something that happened like the gospels is just a symbolic thing??
and you asume a lot, probably more than most reiligious people, this thread is evident of that.
That isn't the case. It is not I that doesn't like solid, hard evidence. I would love to see some
You don't happen to have any, do you?
Glad to hear it
I don't believe I am. I'm just very sceptical when someone believes something without being able to say why.
Ah, well the usual get-out for the inconsistencies within the bible is to say that it is a metaphorical thing.
Are you saying that the ark really was built, and there really was an enormous flood, and there really was 2 of every animal on board the ark?
You keep harping on about me and my assumptions yet haven't actually pointed any assumpions out :/
"That isn't the case. It is not I that doesn't like solid, hard evidence. I would love to see some
You don't happen to have any, do you?"
well yes i do, but you would argue that it isn't.
plus I have personal experiencesm which you would not be able to explain and are very personal, and am not about to explain them to someone who doesnt even care on a public forum.
"Glad to hear it"
clearly your not intrested then :/
"I don't believe I am. I'm just very sceptical when someone believes something without being able to say why."
you thought all christian beleived the earth is ten thousand years old? naive much?
"Ah, well the usual get-out for the inconsistencies within the bible is to say that it is a metaphorical thing.
Are you saying that the ark really was built, and there really was an enormous flood, and there really was 2 of every animal on board the ark?"
I do not know, i have no reason not to believe it.
"You keep harping on about me and my assumptions yet haven't actually pointed any assumpions out :/"
*prepares a list for tomorow*
You don't happen to have any, do you?"
well yes i do, but you would argue that it isn't.
plus I have personal experiencesm which you would not be able to explain and are very personal, and am not about to explain them to someone who doesnt even care on a public forum.
"Glad to hear it
"clearly your not intrested then :/
"I don't believe I am. I'm just very sceptical when someone believes something without being able to say why."
you thought all christian beleived the earth is ten thousand years old? naive much?
"Ah, well the usual get-out for the inconsistencies within the bible is to say that it is a metaphorical thing.
Are you saying that the ark really was built, and there really was an enormous flood, and there really was 2 of every animal on board the ark?"
I do not know, i have no reason not to believe it.
"You keep harping on about me and my assumptions yet haven't actually pointed any assumpions out :/"
*prepares a list for tomorow*
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well yes i do, but you would argue that it isn't.
How can it be hard evidence if I could easily argue it? I am a rational man. If I am given solid, hard evidence then I would take it on face value.
What is it that you have evidence of, btw?
you thought all christian beleived the earth is ten thousand years old? naive much?
Where did I say that, exactly?
I do not know, i have no reason not to believe it.
lol
What happened to the evil sea-going and airborne creatures? The evil ones were allowed to live whilst the evil land-going creatures were not?
How can it be hard evidence if I could easily argue it? I am a rational man. If I am given solid, hard evidence then I would take it on face value.
What is it that you have evidence of, btw?
you thought all christian beleived the earth is ten thousand years old? naive much?
Where did I say that, exactly?
I do not know, i have no reason not to believe it.
lol
What happened to the evil sea-going and airborne creatures? The evil ones were allowed to live whilst the evil land-going creatures were not?
Do Hindus offend you? Buddhists? Zoroastrians? According to you they are blasphemous and you seem to be offended by blasphemy. I imagine a lot of people are offended by Christianity in the same way you are offended by other religions.
well yes i do, but you would argue that it isn't.
"How can it be hard evidence if I could easily argue it? I am a rational man. If I am given solid, hard evidence then I would take it on face value.
What is it that you have evidence of, btw?"
that God exsists. I have lot's of personal acounts of lots of things in peoples lives. to me that is hard evidence, as a witness would be in court.
you thought all christian beleived the earth is ten thousand years old? naive much?
"Where did I say that, exactly?"
a few pages back you used it as example as to how all the bible cannot be correct, (not that the bible says that anyway). but that asumed i bleived that.
I do not know, i have no reason not to believe it.
"lol
What happened to the evil sea-going and airborne creatures? The evil ones were allowed to live whilst the evil land-going creatures were not?"
in what context, noah's ark?
"How can it be hard evidence if I could easily argue it? I am a rational man. If I am given solid, hard evidence then I would take it on face value.
What is it that you have evidence of, btw?"
that God exsists. I have lot's of personal acounts of lots of things in peoples lives. to me that is hard evidence, as a witness would be in court.
you thought all christian beleived the earth is ten thousand years old? naive much?
"Where did I say that, exactly?"
a few pages back you used it as example as to how all the bible cannot be correct, (not that the bible says that anyway). but that asumed i bleived that.
I do not know, i have no reason not to believe it.
"lol
What happened to the evil sea-going and airborne creatures? The evil ones were allowed to live whilst the evil land-going creatures were not?"
in what context, noah's ark?
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Who blanks out the word god? I don't..
lol, the thread has moved on a little from the op.
Hang on.
You are claiming that you have hard evidence that god exists? Please, please, PLEASE share it with us.
To cover your other points, I stated that it can be worked out that the bible tells us when the earth was created. I didn't say that every single person, christian, jew, disciple, apostle or ANYONE believed it. Only that the bible said so. However, you appear to follow the bible to the letter rather than seeing it as metaphor and allegory, so how do you explain it if you don't agree with it?
And yes, I meant in the context of noah's ark.
You are claiming that you have hard evidence that god exists? Please, please, PLEASE share it with us.
To cover your other points, I stated that it can be worked out that the bible tells us when the earth was created. I didn't say that every single person, christian, jew, disciple, apostle or ANYONE believed it. Only that the bible said so. However, you appear to follow the bible to the letter rather than seeing it as metaphor and allegory, so how do you explain it if you don't agree with it?
And yes, I meant in the context of noah's ark.
1st point, i am not going to share, like i said, to somebody who would laugh at it.
the 2nd point depnds on how you work it out etc tbh.
3rd point, noah's ark is possibbly poetic, but who am i to question God, and tbh, its irelevent.
this is very one sided, you fail to answer my questions, then expect me to answer yours.
That is Bassano's last supper, not Da Vinci's Last Supper, which can be seen here clearly depicts a woman. Why would Judas be portrayed as a woman?
Which Gospels?
I couldn't answer either way in any event, I don't profess to have studied all of the gospels
i mean how many people did the bible say was there, as that would be a better source than a painting.
acounts vary, but at the start of it there was 12 apostles. who else was there depends on the acount.
I wouldn't laugh at hard facts. That isn't what you have.
It doesn't really. It can be extrapolated using dates and time periods given in the book you follow. If it isn't 6000 years it certainly isn't the billions scientists believe.
Poetic? You were saying the bible wasn't metaphoric and that it was factual. Which is it?
It isn't irrelevant, it is very relevant, and if you truly believe that god made you then he also gave you reason and logic, I simply wish you to use it
I'm sorry, which of your questions have I failed to answer?