Blu-Ray vs HD-DVD @ CES

FrankJH · 9 Jan 2008 at 07:48

fish99 said:
He was talking about the selection availble, and I agree with him, even though I've no intention of ever buying a HD-DVD and I own a PS3 and intend to start buying Blu-rays, I've looked through the list of titles available on Blu-ray and there's so little there that interests me, probably 2-3 films in the whole library. In comparison there's probably 6-8 films on HD-DVD that I would like to own.

I do wonder where you are looking to be honest - (some Hd media websites are still plainly awful in their selections)

I have around 120 BR's already, all usable on a UK machine - and while I would happily accept you might not like them all, I would be very surprised if you didnt find at least ten you might want

JUMPURS · 9 Jan 2008 at 09:43

Kainz said:
How am I a fanboy? /me slaps! Because I'm stating that I prefer one format over another?

Naw you are an xbox fan

btw Kainz i was only saying that as a bit of banter as i know u like your xbox which is fair enough

NokkonWud · 9 Jan 2008 at 10:10

FrankJH said:
I do wonder where you are looking to be honest - (some Hd media websites are still plainly awful in their selections)

I have around 120 BR's already, all usable on a UK machine - and while I would happily accept you might not like them all, I would be very surprised if you didnt find at least ten you might want

First BR movie I wanted was Region locked; The Prestige.

RoachycaL · 9 Jan 2008 at 10:12

nokkonwud said:
First BR movie I wanted was Region locked; The Prestige.

Ive got that on HD-DVD

Havent watched it yet though.

NokkonWud · 9 Jan 2008 at 10:15

I have it on BR now though. Incredible picture.

FrankJH · 9 Jan 2008 at 10:15

nokkonwud said:
First BR movie I wanted was Region locked; The Prestige.

I wont mention anything about your choice of movie (great idea badly implemented imo)

I never said that they are all unlocked, just that there is a good selection now that are available for UK machines (I personally cant see any reason to get a US region PS3 first given the movie choice now, but I may well get a US unit now to cover 90% of software avaialble)

NokkonWud · 9 Jan 2008 at 10:17

Fantastic film, brilliantly acted, brilliantly directed and excellently implemented.
Guess taste isn't universal

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wedgie · 9 Jan 2008 at 10:18

Agree about The Prestige, such a let down.

barnettgs · 9 Jan 2008 at 10:20

5 pages of posts.... :confused:

The HD format war is officially over!

wwwebber · 9 Jan 2008 at 10:32

nokkonwud said:
Fantastic film, brilliantly acted, brilliantly directed and excellently implemented.
Guess taste isn't universal .

I loved the Prestige on BR but only if you can manage to ignore Christian Bales dodgy Cockney accent !!.

xander_uk2 · 9 Jan 2008 at 11:39

I hate to say it, but it looks like the end for HD DVD....just got the 360 add on as well.....
Was really looking forward to HD Lord Of The Rings

wwwebber · 9 Jan 2008 at 11:48

xander_uk2 said:
I hate to say it, but it looks like the end for HD DVD....just got the 360 add on as well.....
Was really looking forward to HD Lord Of The Rings

Lets hope MS offers a trade in discount for a future blu-ray addon. You could look at this two ways - it's either MS's fault for backing HDDVD with hardware or it's the consumers fault for adopting early - depends upon your train of thought I suppose.

Tobes · 9 Jan 2008 at 11:54

wwwebber said:
Lets hope MS offers a trade in discount for a future blu-ray addon. You could look at this two ways - it's either MS's fault for backing HDDVD with hardware or it's the consumers fault for adopting early - depends upon your train of thought I suppose.

Why should they offer a trade in discount? If someone bought the player then they knew what could happen. Besides MS have said if enough people want a blu ray addon they will *think* about it. MS haven't ditched HD DVD just yet.

wwwebber · 9 Jan 2008 at 11:59

Tobes said:
Why should they offer a trade in discount? If someone bought the player then they knew what could happen. Besides MS have said if enough people want a blu ray addon they will *think* about it. MS haven't ditched HD DVD just yet.

I dont see any reason why not, they backed the wrong horse after all. Like I said - it depends upon your train of thought.

If things all go blu-ray (which they pretty much will) then I think MS would have no choice but to ditch HDDVD and offer a blu-ray addon. They want the 360 in peoples front rooms as a multimedia hub - if it cant do blu-ray then that becomes a very big disadvantage - especially for those who want to watch 1080p content.

JUMPURS · 9 Jan 2008 at 12:18

wwwebber said:
Lets hope MS offers a trade in discount for a future blu-ray addon. You could look at this two ways - it's either MS's fault for backing HDDVD with hardware or it's the consumers fault for adopting early - depends upon your train of thought I suppose.

Or you could blame MS for half baked support for HD-DVD. The never fully spoorted it, if they did we would have an integrated HD-DVD drive in the 360 Elite and it would have cost an extra 50 quid.
Or they would have had HD-DVD running sweet as a nut in Vista. They didn't want either to win so they could try force digital distribution onto us when both formats failed. Wasn't that a rumoured reason as to why MS where the ones writing 100 million dollar cheques to paramount to go to HD-DVD. Least that was Michael Bays theory.

MS wont offer a trade discount for the consumer backing the wrong format. It wasn't like they didn't have a choice.

FrankJH · 9 Jan 2008 at 12:39

wwwebber said:
I dont see any reason why not, they backed the wrong horse after all. Like I said - it depends upon your train of thought.

If things all go blu-ray (which they pretty much will) then I think MS would have no choice but to ditch HDDVD and offer a blu-ray addon. They want the 360 in peoples front rooms as a multimedia hub - if it cant do blu-ray then that becomes a very big disadvantage - especially for those who want to watch 1080p content.

MS MIGHT adopt BR - but I wouldnt bet on it right now by any means. Apart from the corporate animosity between the two, I am not sure its worth MS's while to back it wholeheartedly (they could support a BR addon without producing one themselves) but even then if the Paramount /Universal deal lasts the distance then MS has no need to do anything just yet (with over a year left of potential sales)

NokkonWud · 9 Jan 2008 at 12:56

wwwebber said:
Lets hope MS offers a trade in discount for a future blu-ray addon. You could look at this two ways - it's either MS's fault for backing HDDVD with hardware or it's the consumers fault for adopting early - depends upon your train of thought I suppose.

Microsoft made it an optional extra, not a forced extra, so they have no reason to give a refund. I praise Microsoft for giving you the option.

bingham67 · 9 Jan 2008 at 12:58

nokkonwud said:
Microsoft made it an optional extra, not a forced extra, so they have no reason to give a refund. I praise Microsoft for giving you the option.

Indeed

SiD the Turtle · 9 Jan 2008 at 13:03

nokkonwud said:
Microsoft made it an optional extra, not a forced extra, so they have no reason to give a refund. I praise Microsoft for giving you the option.

While I agree with that, I wonder that if the Xbox 360 did come with a HD-DVD drive as standard, would it have swung the war in HD-DVD's favour? A lot of people speculate that Blu-Ray's success is due to so many people having it through the PS3 though perhaps if the 360 did come with a HD-DVD drive, it would be more expensive and might not have sold as well.

NokkonWud · 9 Jan 2008 at 13:10

It would have launched as a more expensive console than it was. We got it for £280 for the most expensive spec from day one and I think that worked wonders for it.
HD-DVD nor Blu-Ray offer anything of serious impact to Microsoft like BR does to Sony, so they never went for any, it hasn't impacted it yet with Xbox360 games outselling the PS3 counterparts.