*****OFFICIAL OcUK/JW IP35 Pro THREAD*****

WJA96 said:
Back to the Abit threads for you Buff. Although I can see the confusion - the initial BIOS didn't work properly and it's called an IP35-Pro - just like the Abit:p
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These days you can buy a branded P35 (as it happens an abit IP35 :p) with ICH9R & firewire for under £60 delivered ...

btw the initial abit IP35 Pro BIOS worked very well. ;)
 
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Yes,the standard IP35 does.
Not 100% of them but only the important ones.
Given equivalent specification the only difference between solid & "wet" caps should be longevity, there should be no difference in performance.
 
BUFF said:
These days you can buy a branded P35 (as it happens an abit IP35 :p) with ICH9R & firewire for under £60 delivered ...

btw the initial abit IP35 Pro BIOS worked very well. ;)
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I don't wish to query your motives for posting, but what exactly do you feel you're adding to a thread about a product that competes with your own preferred supplier (Abit)? Possibly you can buy an IP35 for less than £60 incl. VAT, but not from OcUK. I couldn't find anything listed on Froogle for under £60 and anything between £60 and £70 were all IP35-E's. On OcUK the IP35 is £86. The IP35-E is £69, which is £5 more than the J&W board, and £9 more than the cheapest place on Froogle. I don't doubt what you say, it's just that for most people the J&W IP35-Pro is a real bargain.

I have to admit to feeling bizarrely protective of J&W, simply because I gave them an absolute pasting in the early days, but they've fixed most of the issues now and I think it's a great value board right now.

The initial AB9-Pro BIOS was a complete howler if I recall correctly, and after Abit fixed that it was a great board. If you scan the thread listings there are as many issues with Gigabyte, Abit and ASUS, but strangely few with J&W. I think that purely down to slow take-up and a low installed user base, but the Abit's are right up there in terms of issues reported.
 
BUFF said:
Yes,the standard IP35 does.
Not 100% of them but only the important ones.
Given equivalent specification the only difference between solid & "wet" caps should be longevity, there should be no difference in performance.
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For what it's worth I agree with you on all but two points - the 'wet' caps are not as expensive - so you'd expect a board with 100% solid caps to retail for more. At the only store in the UK that sells it, the J&W IP35-Pro comfortably retails for £5 less than the poorer specification IP35-E and £20 less than the similar specification IP35.

As for which capacitors are important and which ones aren't I'll leave it to you to tell us which ones can safely expire with no loss of performance and which ones are mission critical.;)
 
Within purely the OcUK scheme of things it looks fine.
However, in the wider scheme of things (& I'm sure that you are aware that one has to choose one's words carefully) it may not be quite so good vfm.

WJA96 said:
As for which capacitors are important and which ones aren't I'll leave it to you to tell us which ones can safely expire with no loss of performance and which ones are mission critical.;)
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You know very well that some caps are more likely to expire than others & typically they are those associated with the PWM.
However, assuming equivalent electrical specification & proper for the application then neither type should expire except due to age (& both types of caps should last longer than most enthusiasts keep there mobos iirc 3 years+ for "wet" & 5 years + for solid).
 
v1.3b is about:

updating 45nm CPUs' microcodes,
detecting the correct vcore for 45nm CPUs,
fixing the fail to adjust vcore problem for 45nm CPUs,
removing unnecessary options, if there were still any,
adding the auto voltage-up feature during overclocking. (NB, CPU, VDIMM)
 
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WJA96 said:
Not really. V1.3 works as advertised. For it to be perfect for me, I'd like to see a wider range of voltage adjustments for the CPU (especially downwards for the E8x00 series) and also a higher manual limit for tRfc. Other than that, it's now getting the same performance out of my CPUs as my more expensive Gigabyte, ASUS and Abit boards. At that point, I can't really see any reason not to buy one.
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for tRfc, may I know is it "not Low enough" or "not High enough" ? ;)
 
BUFF said:
Yes,the standard IP35 does.
Not 100% of them but only the important ones.
Given equivalent specification the only difference between solid & "wet" caps should be longevity, there should be no difference in performance.
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then it will be like the J&W IP35-S,
not 100% but only the important ones! ;)
 
Credit where it's due - the customer service and support we're getting from kenofstephen and J&W is simply superb. I hope kenofstephen's boss reads these threads because he's doing a geat job for J&W and their customers.

I also think that the J&W attitude has made this thread a really nice place to post recently. We've got a very positive, collaborative, feeling going that I think we have all participated in, although I admit I was very hard to begin with.

Thanks again kenofstephen.
 
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