Drum and Bass Dj Grooverider sentenced to 4 years in Dubai

No really... it is. This is just as horrible as many of the drug sentences the US dishes out quite regularly.

Two grams of pot is an absolutely tiny amount and locking someone up for four years is totally wrong regardless of where it happens. It's a waste of everyone's time, most sadly, poor ole' Grooverider.

No it sends a message, drugs aren't tolerated. If it was the same over here at the start we wouldn't have this problem.

Too soft when it comes to punishment. They've got some things sorted.
 
There is indeed but it's on a sliding scale. You were implying the laws of other countries were non of our business. Well when those laws are unjust I think we have good right to make them our business.

Why is it wrong for me to believe that he broke the law and deserves punishment but at the same time that 4 years in a foreign prison is unjust?

you voice your opinion, I voice mine :) just because they differ, doesn't make yours wrong
 
Can someone tell me how you get caught for having traces of, or 2g of drugs. They would barely be able to see it, so unless you were acting suspiciously they wouldn't find it?

Unless there were dogs, but I have never seen them in Dubai
 
Can someone tell me how you get caught for having traces of, or 2g of drugs. They would barely be able to see it, so unless you were acting suspiciously they wouldn't find it?

As mentioned in previous threads they aren't particularly keen on black guys. Yes, that is a generalisation but black guys are the only people I've seen these stories on. The inference is that they check them as much as possible.

2 grams of weed is easily enough to notice. Its the .2g stories I find difficult to stomach.
 
No it isn't.

You can see why on page 1.

No really... it isn't.

How can you seriously justify 4 years of a mans life for a very very very small amount of pot? The time does not fit the crime in any shape or form! Just because a country has a law does not make that law any less retarded. This is a good example of such a law.

I don't need to see page 1 again - thanks for the advice though.
 
They do have sophisticated scanning machines in Dubai Airport from what I remember, but Grooverider wasn't caught with one of those. His luggage was searched (probably because the customs guys thought he might carry drugs)

I believe their equipment uses gas analysis to detect the substances banned. From what i remenber, this is how the other guy with 0.003g on the sole of his show got caught.

They are also one of the only countries that will do you if they detect it in your blood (so you could potentially be convicted if you took a smoke the week before) - and it was still in your system (even minute amounts apparently) - Considering many over the counter drugs will stay in your system (such as codeine - which is totally legal in the UK - but carries 4 years in UAE) - its very dangerous.
 
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No really... it isn't.

How can you seriously justify 4 years of a mans life for a very very very small amount of pot? The time does not fit the crime in any shape or form! Just because a country has a law does not make that law any less retarded. This is a good example of such a law.

I don't need to see page 1 again - thanks for the advice though.

I just couldn't be bothered typing out the same argument. This law is right for their society. Don't like it? Don't go.

The amount is unimportant. This is not comparable to the guy that took a tiny fraction into the country on the sole of his shoe.

It is unfortunate, but I certainly wouldn't take any illicit substances into their country. I wouldn't take any out of this one. Moving anything at all across any border is a serious international infringement. Going into a country with such superannuated laws and punishments carrying illicit substances deserves what he got.
 
you got to think why are governments so against marijuana, health risk? well no as there are things which are much dangerous to a persons health that are legal.

there are are lot of prescribed drugs which are way more dangerous to a persons life than marijuana , its a total hypocrisy when it comes down to it.

its very simple to why governments do not like marijuana , it makes people who use it question , question authorities,rules, basically its very good for 'getting out of yourself' and seeing things in abstract way, its a 'drug' for the non conformist, and one thing which governments do not like is individuals who are free thinkers. those people are harder to control/influence as they are no longer part of the herd population.


alcohol { destructive , depressant, depletes health, dumbs down } LEGAL

marijuana { psychoactive stimulant, boundary dissolver, creative } ILLEGAL


who has a vested interest in keeping a restriction on marijuana, the government, and the people who are already herd like and get thier opinions from the t.v and newspapers.
 
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You think that alcohol is legal because it 'dumbs down' and marijuana is banned because it does not??
 
If you are stupid enough to take drungs into a county with draconian punishments then you deserve all you get to be honest.
 
You think that alcohol is legal because it 'dumbs down' and marijuana is banned because it does not??

try not to reduce my post to a { this or this} argument, i said much more than that, but at the very fundamental level yes. alcohol is very destructive, does NOT make you think, it stupefies, its the anti of cannabis .

no government wants a population who can think for themselves, that is fact

a population who thinks for themselves is a population that is harder to control.

governments like control.

goverments hate marijuana
 
its very simple to why governments do not like marijuana , it makes people who use it question , question authorities,rules, basically its very good for 'getting out of yourself' and seeing things in abstract way, its a 'drug' for the non conformist, and one thing which governments do not like is individuals who are free thinkers. those people are harder to control/influence as they are no longer part of the herd population.


alcohol { destructive , depressant, depletes health, dumbs down } LEGAL

marijuana { psychoactive stimulant, boundary dissolver, creative } ILLEGAL


who has a vested interest in keeping a restriction on marijuana, the government, and the people who are already herd like and get thier opinions from the t.v and newspapers.

God. I smoke weed from time to time, and used to smoke it massively when I was younger, and even I think you are talking complete tripe. Even if we take the view that it makes you question authority, people are too bloody apathetic and high to do anything about it anyway. Weed does not suddenly make everyone observant about the things happening around them. People take it to get high. Marijuana is hardly a "boundary dissolver".

it stupefies, its the anti of cannabis

Well there's a contradiction if ever I saw one.

And as an aside, I'm for making weed legal, but not for such ridiculous reasons. But then, I'm just blind aren't I? I haven't opened my third eye...I need to see what the government is really doing, and how the man is keeping me down! Excuse me while I go listen to Tool, and think of ways to change the world for the better!

a population who thinks for themselves is a population that is harder to control.

If we are talking purely about which I'd rather try to control I'd take the country full of potheads over the country full of drunks any day.
 
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try not to reduce my post to a { this or this} argument, i said much more than that, but at the very fundamental level yes. alcohol is very destructive, does NOT make you think, it stupefies

Marijuana does the same thing.
 
lol This place makes me laugh, we moan when foreign people want to change our laws to suit them, we moan that we aren't tough enough on crime in the UK but then we complain when a foreign country's laws are harsher than ours. Oh, but only when it affects someone British.

Hehe indeed...serves the ****er right for bringing in drugs to a country that doesnt allow them. I have zero sympathy for him and its not like other countries wouldnt prosecute someone for having drugs on them...good on Dubai \o/.
 
people are too bloody apathetic and high to do anything about it anyway. Weed does not suddenly make everyone observant about the things happening around them. People take it to get high. Marijuana is hardly a "boundary dissolver".


If we are talking purely about which I'd rather try to control I'd take the country full of potheads over the country full of drunks any day.


when i say control i do not mean physical control, i mean spiritual, and intellectual control, a individual thinker is not open to the propaganda which we are hammered with everyday on the t.v . and for example, someone who thinks for themselves can see through the spin , the lies , we are being told .

you don't need to smoke cannabis to be a free thinker , but a person who is caught up in the complexities of society , i.e paying your taxes on time, license for this licenses for that, threat of wars, etc etc etc . it can help people break out from themselves and come to realization which may not serve law but serve themselves in a healthy manner.
 
Never heard of him personally, but if he knowingly carried an illegal drug into a Country and got caught then he deserves to get whatever punishment is the norm in that Country!
 
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