**Car or Motorbike** Argggh

as said, you need 2 bike if you're going to go bikes only. you need something to run into the ground that never gets washed and you need a nice bike for the nice weather. :)
 
Vasquez said:
no, cars are unsafe to bikers :)
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Very true, No matter what people say or think, its fact that cars cause the high majority of bike accidents.

Bottom line is if your not a Muppet you wont crash, may seem stupid but that one time you get that complete nutter boy racer that comes round the corner on the wrong side of the road at 70+ MPH, i rather be on a bike! chances of me swerving outta the way on a bike is much larger than in a car, and imo you still got a chance of survival depending where and how your hit on a bike, in a car imo also its a complete rite off no matter where you hit in the front, at 70+ anyway
 
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Freefaller said:
Both. Best of both worlds. I can't live without either.
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Agreed, totally. :cool:

I use my car in rubbish weather to commute ( 54 plate 3.0 V6 CDTi SRi Vectra ).

But at any other time, I prefer to use the bike when it's dry ( Aprilia 1000 RSV Mille ).

I'll make a statement here which is bound to get some folks arguing.

I believe bikers make for better car drivers, and that is a fact.

The hazard perception you get whilst riding a bike crosses over to when you are behind the wheel of a car.

Non-biking car drivers may well not understand or comprehend that, but it is true, none the less. I'm sure bikers here will understand and grasp what I'm getting at.

Put it this way, I take an EFAD exam every couple of years for my job and each time I do, the instructor comments on how bikers are more aware of hazards en-route to a firecall when they are behind the wheel of a fire appliance, compared to non-bikers.

It's an intuition thing, ya know?. :cool:
 
Draeger said:
Agreed, totally. :cool:

I use my car in rubbish weather to commute ( 54 plate 3.0 V6 CDTi SRi Vectra ).

But at any other time, I prefer to use the bike when it's dry ( Aprilia 1000 RSV Mille ).

I'll make a statement here which is bound to get some folks arguing.

I believe bikers make for better car drivers, and that is a fact.

The hazard perception you get whilst riding a bike crosses over to when you are behind the wheel of a car.

Non-biking car drivers may well not understand or comprehend that, but it is true, none the less. I'm sure bikers here will understand and grasp what I'm getting at.

Put it this way, I take an EFAD exam every couple of years for my job and each time I do, the instructor comments on how bikers are more aware of hazards en-route to a firecall when they are behind the wheel of a fire appliance, compared to non-bikers.

It's an intuition thing, ya know?. :cool:
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Totally agree. Since riding a bike I feel that I am considerably better as a car driver. My observation and perception have improved drastically. That's not to say that there aren't excellent car drivers who have never ridden a bike, more that it can make the more mediocre car drivers more accomplished.
 
I went as follows...

Bike only (50, 125, 600cc)
Bike and car....
Car...
Want bike and car again.

For what I used to need from a bike it was very expensive to own one at 19, I didnt mind paying the money when it was my only form of transport but when I had the car the bike soon became a weekend toy. Now I earn almost double what I did back then, insurance is a tad cheaper as I now own a full license so looking soon at getting a bike again.

Looking at your ride history i think you would be a lot safer in a car :)
 
I use my Fazer for commuting to work. Even when the weather's been really bad and my wife has offered the car I've taken the bike. Purely for the reason that I can't stand being sat in traffic.

Depends on your circumstance. Do you have kids or a dog etc?

If there were no traffic jams I'd definately drive a car during the winter and ride a bike during the nice weather.

Wouldn't ride the Fazer for fun though, as it's a dog ugly thing.

That's why I bought an NSR250R :)
 
Master Skooter said:
That's why I bought an NSR250R :)
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What's the deal with 250cc bikes in general? Why are they so unpopular? I'm still wondering whether to get into biking, I did the CBT back in November and thinking about booking direct access. From my ill-informed position 250s seem like nice mix between being light and still fairly quick. A 600 at some 180kg plus just seems a bit of an overkill though obviously I've never ridden one.
 
clv101 said:
What's the deal with 250cc bikes in general? Why are they so unpopular? I'm still wondering whether to get into biking, I did the CBT back in November and thinking about booking direct access. From my ill-informed position 250s seem like nice mix between being light and still fairly quick. A 600 at some 180kg plus just seems a bit of an overkill though obviously I've never ridden one.
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2strokes, so they have higher running costs and need rebuilding often. The 250 engines are even worse reliability wise than the 125's and can at any moment decide that they're going to sieze or eat themselves. Killer riding position that's great when going quick but terrible for going slow. All old now so parts can be a nightmare. However the rest of what you say is true... great fun. Just it takes an enthusiast to keep them running as any normal person would probably give up in frustration! :D .
 
St0rmer66, what about the air-cooled 4-stroke Honda CBF250 (138.5kg) or the liquid-cooled, 4-stroke Kawasaki Ninja 250R? To be fair though the Ninja is 154kg so hardly light.

For that weight the Triumph Street Triple (675cc, 107bhp) at 167kg looks good.
 
DunK1 said:
NS250R is pretty nasty looking imo :eek:
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Each to their own eh? ;)

clv101 said:
What's the deal with 250cc bikes in general? Why are they so unpopular? I'm still wondering whether to get into biking, I did the CBT back in November and thinking about booking direct access. From my ill-informed position 250s seem like nice mix between being light and still fairly quick. A 600 at some 180kg plus just seems a bit of an overkill though obviously I've never ridden one.
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I don't think that any of the manufacturers currently make a 250 2-stroke? The last I recall was Aprillia's RS250? You can buy Japanese market 250 bore-strokes (sorry 4-strokes), mad things which can rev to 22,000 rpm. But not my cup of tea.

What about a nice Suzuki SV650? Nice and light....and with that lovely twin thud! :cool:

As mentioned above, a 250 2-stroke is really one for the enthusiast. People such as myself who owned one when they were a teenager & bored by large capacity bore-stokes, fancied reliving their youth! My GSXR750R didn't move me emotionally a fraction as my old RGV250. Parts aren't too bad for the later models. My NSR will be purely for the dry weather blasts & track days. It's the closest thing to the NSR race bike of the same era, sharing many parts.130Kg & 60 bhp = :D
 
I have both,

Bike is much more fun as a toy than something i need to use every day, this is where the car comes in.

Ive owned a few bikes SV650s, SV1000, and now my Tuono 1000

also had a few cars including a heavily modified Westfield.

In the end i like a practical car, and a fun toy... but then im getting old! (27)
 
I passed my test on a scooter last year (Piaggio B125). I now have a Gilera Mk1 Nexus 500 that goes about 120mph (although she's restricted to 33bhp and can only manage about 100mph), plenty fast enough for my commuting and cheap to run, £200 a service every 4000 miles (Full service including new belt, from where I go, other places are cheaper £100-150, but don't do everything and don't give you another ride for the day) can hit 70-80mpg around 250 miles max on a tank, its an auto obviously as its still a scooter and I ride all year round and can carry a full face helmet under the seat... The wife owns a car and we use that for the shopping etc, the scoot for going out places and me commuting.

Heres a picture of my ride... the scoot not the girl

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So I know it's not a 'real bike' but she can take on bikes in her class and I'm quite happy... so I guess what I am saying is get both! :)
 
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I will only ride my bike - i done lessons in a car, rallied around in them, and I wasn't impressed.

The only reason I'd get a car is if it could do 0-60 in under 4 seconds with a top speed of at least 200mph, even then it would costs tens of thousands, where as I can spend 4K on a bike and go even faster!

Then again I'm a bit of a speed freak, and don't/won't have a girlfriend to justify getting something with a boot (for the shopping not for her lol)

not to mention cheaper insurance, cheaper servicing and the ability to kill Mr I've got more money than you in his *lame M5 or what have you.



*cue the zomg M5 rocks u n00b lol
 
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