OMFG!

[Feef]

Some of you people need to grow up, seriously. Someone very close to me did exactly this, after years of depression and being near suicide due to the feeling of living a lie. Ultimately she had to leave the country and start a different life to avoid the kind of things being talked about in this thread.

It's a serious, genuine problem, and it'll be a difficult enough time for her without other people making fun of the change. If you can't deal with it, don't get involved, otherwise put your prejudice aside and get on with her just as you would before.

 

[romperstomper]

We had this guy at work that started turning up in a dress but security refused to let him in the building ,he got around that and would be wiping down the tables whilst we were eating in a frock with manly tats down his arms .It was real difficult not to burst out laughing at him

He refused to use the mens toilets and the women complained so they had to give him his own toilet block to which he had his own key ,takes the mick really as we had to walk a long way to reach the next toilet block !

He use to get a kicking in town sometimes as he would come in all beaten up !

 

[Tefal]

Some of you people need to grow up, seriously. Someone very close to me did exactly this, after years of depression and being near suicide due to the feeling of living a lie. Ultimately she had to leave the country and start a different life to avoid the kind of things being talked about in this thread.

It's a serious, genuine problem, and it'll be a difficult enough time for her without other people making fun of the change. If you can't deal with it, don't get involved, otherwise put your prejudice aside and get on with her just as you would before.

seriously, we don;'t know the guy at all, never will, so tbh it's pretty much like a dodgy comedy sketch or funny anecdote down the pub.

 

[penski]

This could be interesting

Which bit dont I have any idea about?

Did you know that if its causing you to be 'depressed' being a guy, the NHS will pay the 5 figure sum for the operations involved?

*n

 

[Helium_Junkie]

Wasn't this exact same email posted a couple of months ago about some guys boss?

 

[penski]

Hang on...she doesn't work for a recruitment agency does she?

*n

 

[shauncr91]

That would just seem plain weird if I had known them for ages.

But whatever makes them happy I guess

 

[[TW]Fox]

*n

As I suspected. These operations are often NHS funded. Trust me. If it's deemed to be detrimental to your mental health, then they will authorise and pay for treatment, and it costs a *lot* of money becuase the NHS themselves do not do it - they pay the costs for a private hospital to do the proceedure.

 

[Dave M]

It's a serious, genuine problem, and it'll be a difficult enough time for her without other people making fun of the change. If you can't deal with it, don't get involved, otherwise put your prejudice aside and get on with her just as you would before.

I'm sure it's a distressing condition to push somebody to going through such an ordeal (the pain of surgery never mind the social stigma).

But is surgery the answer? To me it's clearly a mental problem - just like there are people who want to amputate limbs because they don't think it's a part of them, but they don't get anywhere near as much sympathy any hardly ever would doctors consider surgery over therapy.

 

[Dave M]

As I suspected. These operations are often NHS funded. Trust me. If it's deemed to be detrimental to your mental health, then they will authorise and pay for treatment, and it costs a *lot* of money becuase the NHS themselves do not do it - they pay the costs for a private hospital to do the proceedure.

A 5 figure sum would do my mental health the world of good

 

[penski]

As I suspected. These operations are often NHS funded. Trust me. If it's deemed to be detrimental to your mental health, then they will authorise and pay for treatment, and it costs a *lot* of money becuase the NHS themselves do not do it - they pay the costs for a private hospital to do the proceedure.

I know that. Why place depressed in inverted commas unless you're trying to make a comment that is frankly ludicrous?

*n

 

[[TW]Fox]

A 5 figure sum would do my mental health the world of good

This was exactly my thought. Some people get really, really depressed becuase they can't have lots of foreign holidays, should these be available on the NHS as well..

 

[[TW]Fox]

I know that. Why place depressed in inverted commas unless you're trying to make a comment that is frankly ludicrous?

Becuase I disagree with it strongly. Especially when there are so many shortfalls in NHS funding elsewhere. They can't fund life saving treatment costing less than £10k for some people due to lack of money but they can pay for people like this to have gender ops in private clinics at massive cost.

Yea, thats good that is.

They need their mental health treated, not just bowing to whatever their mental illness tells them they need this week.

 

[BrightonBelle]

Very brave of them to do that. Otherwise they would have spent the rest of the time ducking whispering and gossip.

At least its out in the open and everyone knows how he feels about it... i.e is not ashamed and he can direct them to that email.

BB x

 

[RobH]

Wasn't this exact same email posted a couple of months ago about some guys boss?

YES, I thought I was getting dejavu then but there was definatly a thread identical to this fairly recently. Someone must be able to dig that up.

 

[penski]

Becuase I disagree with it strongly. Especially when there are so many shortfalls in NHS funding elsewhere. They can't fund life saving treatment costing less than £10k for some people due to lack of money but they can pay for people like this to have gender ops in private clinics at massive cost.

Yea, thats good that is.

They need their mental health treated, not just bowing to whatever their mental illness tells them they need this week.

As I thought...

You don't have a clue about mental health, depression or transexuals.

Go back to your Daily Mail.

*n

 

[penski]

This was exactly my thought. Some people get really, really depressed becuase they can't have lots of foreign holidays, should these be available on the NHS as well..

*n

 

[[TW]Fox]

As I thought...

You don't have a clue about mental health, depression or transexuals.

So you think it's acceptable that one person can have £10-30k worth of NHS money to change sex becuase they are depressed, whilst at the same time otherwise healthy people die of MRSA?

Go back to your Daily Mail.

I wouldn't touch it.

 

[Shep_Cobain]

lol.....

 

[Feef]

But is surgery the answer? To me it's clearly a mental problem - just like there are people who want to amputate limbs because they don't think it's a part of them, but they don't get anywhere near as much sympathy any hardly ever would doctors consider surgery over therapy.

I don't think surgery is necessary, and in many cases it doesn't happen at all. The person I was referring to in my last post hasn't had any surgery, and is unlikely to given her age (54). The major differences have been achieved through hormone supplements, hair removal, and simply using moisturiser and make up, and she appears perfectly convincing to anyone who didn't know her before.

I'd agree that it is a mental issue, so the treatment should be whatever allows that person to feel comfortable. As I said, in many cases, that doesn't necessitate surgery, a change of appearance and lifestyle is enough.

Following on from the mental part, in America it's actually classed as a serious mental health problem, which can prevent people from getting work and seems to be a much greater stigma. I know of several people who've moved over here (or to Europe in general) for treatment and to get on with life, as having someone tell you you're insane and not fit to work doesn't really help when added to the rest of the confusion..