To continue the analogy, OP hasn't yet bought AMD - he's asking about, um, what thermal paste to use. People might therefore be legitimate in suggesting that he instead consider a Core2, especially if they are superior.
can i get christened at 23?
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To continue the analogy, OP hasn't yet bought AMD - he's asking about, um, what thermal paste to use. People might therefore be legitimate in suggesting that he instead consider a Core2, especially if they are superior.
Yep as I stated, science did not teach you these things, but to deny there is anything to be found in religion is just stupid.
No not at all, I said science cannot teach you these things, don't guess what I am trying to say.
There are things to be found under wet rocks and in dark holes that smell funny.
Doesn't mean that finding them is going to benefit you any.
Just cos you think it may not benefit you doesn't mean it ain't gona benefit others.
Religion has benefits. Love thy neighbour, be nice, help the poor, this is all good - but you have to weigh this up with the costs.
These range from small, like dismissing your faculties, becoming intellectually benign, bowing down to hegemonic patriarchal societies, to truly terrible, like telling children beliefs as truth, the impeding of medical progress and even mass killings.
No, he's not.
He's asking about being baptised, which suggests a commitment has already been made, given that baptism is an outward display of an inward commitment.
Feel free to attempt to further analogise my faith though, I'm sure you know the intricacies better than me.
And it doesn't mean that it is going to benefit them either.
At the end of the day, the OP is already religious, is it really going to make that much difference if some mysic splashes magic water on his head?
Hey, it was your analogy! I have read the bible cover to cover my friend, but I lost my faith at 14 - or rather, realised that I had none. Probably you know your religion better, but I think I've picked up the general idea, and I find it abhorrent.
My point still stands - if a member asks advice on doing something many consider ridiculous, should we not be allowed to debate it?
Yes, it was my analogy, and it worked until you brought in the thermal paste which made no sense.
You're free to choose btw, but that's by the bye.
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Well, as I said, how far do you think that attitude would go in the hardware forums?
This is true, but a very simplistic almost primary school level of understanding.
Yes couldn't agree more and I utterly reject this side of religion, however you must understand that this is not a black and white issue for me. If I hadn't looked into Eastern religions I would probably also be telling Christians they were insane, but deep rooted in Christianity there are overlapping elements that as I see it do have value.
It's a case of throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
Well there's only one way to find out. You're welcome to understand anytime btw
I maintain that thermal paste is a valid weapon in any argument.
Wonderfully free, yes. Born a few hundred years earlier and the story might have been different, but that's also by the by I guess.
If the argument had validity, quite far? I don't think buying a CPU is comparable to committing to a religion. I do still think that if the OP's choice is widely considered to be ridiculous we should be allowed to advise against it, giving evidence as we go.
If you think beyond this, in fact its actually a clear reflection of how at least British society is moving past the need for religious dogma / relics and obsessive rituals in order to feel spiritually whole.
This forum is large enough to be an interesting slice of the general population, clearly given the tech nature there may be a bias towards "science" et al. but on the whole i really like seeing the general responses on here as i believe its a good representation of the response a proper general pop survey would reveal.
The simple matter is people no longer need unexplainable religious dogma to feel safe and secure in themselves. I find it astonishing that SO much importance is placed on splashing some "holy" water on someones head by a specific appointed person. However I have no trouble whatsoever understanding others personal enjoyment and gratification that can be achieved by studying religious texts, but what I cant understand is why the same people dont get similar enjoyment from arguing the case for its reality.
if I read a journal paper I think is fantastic, i love sharing it with my peers, and then when they inevitably tell me the paper they found on the subject is more compelling, we spend an enjoyable hour or so arguing our case. If they convince me otherwise, I yield, alternatively they yield or maybe we both walk away slightly less sure of our initial conviction and investigate further.
OCuk's response to somebody being baptised is an interesting one, and I am glad this forum exists to allow these opinions to be seen.
That's what porn is for.
I agree with your post but have selected the part above to respond to. First off as someone who is defending religion to some extent I will say that I also see no reason whatsoever to splash water on someones head. I don't believe it will make any difference at all, however these kind of events hold meaning and significance. Why do people get married, why do we hold funeral services, why do soldiers outside Buckingham Palace wear bearskin hats, why do we wear poppies in November etc. etc. Would it make any difference if we did not do these things?....hopefully you get my point.
I think the difference between a scientific paper and sharing spiritual knowledge is that, spirituality is not something you can look at, listen to, touch or taste. You have to feel it inside you, science is the understanding of the world around us spirituality is the understanding of the world within us.
It is like telling someone just how much you love your parents and then expecting that person to as well. All the arguing in the world will not make that person love them.
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Quote for truth. He asked a simple question, lets leave it at that.
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I've disagreed with much or even most of what you've said whenever religion and science rear their heads in all the other OCUK posts but the above quote is almost perfect in its clarity.
I might change it to :
but I think I preferred yours
