Overweight

I would echo singists post tbh. He speaks from experience, and the amount of people I see who wish they had done something earlier before their health is affected is enormous. As the saying goes, you dont lock the stable door after the horse has bolted.

As far as the old BMI debate goes, I can assure you all doctors know it's a guide and that can't be useful for all people, but do you know what percentage of my patients I check a BMI on and find it >30 yet know they wouldn't benefit from shifting a bit of lard? It's almost nil I can tell you now. It infuriates me when people advise others to ignore BMI completely based on Martin Johnsons BMI or something. Don't kid yourself that your BMI of 33 is fine unless you can also state you have a low % body fat that has been properly measured. In my experience those who tell others to ignore BMI are guys in their 30's who USED to be very fit at 18 and are refusing to admit their gut is getting bigger.
 
Lysander said:
I've come over all unnecessary...
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:eek:

Steady now :p

heeeed said:
As far as the old BMI debate goes, I can assure you all doctors know it's a guide...
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Clearly not all doctors know this when one continues to hear stories like the one I recounted above. I have heard many similar stories.

heeeed said:
It infuriates me when people advise others to ignore BMI completely based on Martin Johnsons BMI or something. Don't kid yourself that your BMI of 33 is fine unless you can also state you have a low % body fat that has been properly measured.
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I don't think anybody in this thread has advised anyone to "ignore BMI completely" - that would be poor advice indeed. The point I was trying to make was, that on anecdotal evidence at least (and there's no shortage of it around), some doctors still insist on putting too much weight (pardon the pun) behind BMI scores, as if BMI was the be all and end all of obesity benchmarking. Perhaps if Joe Public could see evidence of common sense being applied, he might have a little more faith in the system - as long as it's backed up with other tests.
 
Stan is right, according to my latest health check, I'm classed as overweight going by the standard BMI check but I'm anything but. The doctors where quite insistant of me loosing weight. However, a lot of the weight I carry is muscle tissue rather than fat.
 
Benjarghmin said:
I would prefer to be of an average build
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Is it acceptable/normal to 'accept' being large as a consequence of great enjoyment of food/beer, or is there something wrong with me :confused:
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So which is it you want? Beer and Curry or an 'average build'?

Why not just do both? Exercise for half an hour a few days a week (just something to get you sweating / out of breath - whatever you like, it doesn't matter).

Then have a night or two a week where you have your beers and curry - I'm sure your increased metabolic rate from your workouts will take care of that.

If you don't lose weight, try more exercise or less beer - whichever you can tolerate the easiest :)
 
Admiral Huddy said:
Stan is right, according to my latest health check, I'm classed as overweight going by the standard BMI check but I'm anything but. The doctors where quite insistant of me loosing weight. However, a lot of the weight I carry is muscle tissue rather than fat.
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Thank you Huddy.

I can vouch for Huddy's body shape too. Every time I meet him, I think "You *******" :p
 
Regarding the 40 hours I did mean that sitting at desk.

For years now I only take the stairs in my work (3rd floor so nothing to difficult) and I go for a 30-40 minute brisk walk of an evening. I think I'll try the running as well can't do any harm. It's just trying to fit it all in..... lol life is so short...

I gave up beer last year for about 3 months but it's just a stop gap as I can't see me going tee total again. Too many occasions to have a drink and the alternative (non-acloholic) fizzy drinks are actually shown to be more damaging to your health than malt hops barley and yeast.

:D

Love the commando website. Great find and something to aim for.
 
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jas72 said:
Too many occasions to have a drink and the alternative (non-acloholic) fizzy drinks are actually shown to be more damaging to your health than malt hops barley and yeast.
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Say what now?

I don't recall coke giving people cirrhosis :p
 
Benjarghmin said:
Evenin'

I am currently dieting, but have tonight decided to drink lots of beer and get drunk, which will probably involve also eating food later. Shame really.

Anywho, I'm 5'8 and weight 95kg, which is quite heavy but I am not noticeably large (in the sense of "oh he's a right fatty", just average man-fat I guess.) I would prefer to be of an average build, but I really don't see being large as such a big problem, and so lack the motivation to stay dieting.

Is it acceptable/normal to 'accept' being large as a consequence of great enjoyment of food/beer, or is there something wrong with me :confused:
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You weigh the same as me and you are nearly a whole foot shorter (6'5). I'm a very big build as well.

I enjoy food and drink almost more than anything else tbh. Used to be a right little porker I did. But then again I never cared what other people said, because they'd always ask me what wine or beer to buy etc.

Fat + Happy is a cliche.

If food + drink is your passion then there's no reason to deprive yourself of your principle enjoyments tbh. But then again I'd say that if it is something which bothers you then do something about it. If not, bon apetit and enjoy yourself I mean who gives a flying **** what other people say or think: they probably enjoy contracting STD's at the weekend and taking Class A's.

You have a noble passion, sir and tbh you should enjoy it!
 
Bes said:
Personally, I was overweight and was disgusted by myself, but that's just me I guess.
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rewind to year 8 and thats how i felt. So i did something about it, if you really want to loose the weight and slim out, you'll realise. the food isnt going anywhere. When i was in Year 8 i was just shy of 13 stone and was about 5'6. In little under a year i dropped to 10 and a half stone now 5'10 and 18. Now in my first year of Uni, hitting the gym an absurd amount and getting plenty of exercise and eating right, im now at 12.9 stone (80 kilos give or take) with an athletic/muscular build, the way i wanted to be. It is acheivable, it just takes time and determination :)
 
Telescopi said:
So which is it you want? Beer and Curry or an 'average build'?

Why not just do both? Exercise for half an hour a few days a week (just something to get you sweating / out of breath - whatever you like, it doesn't matter).

Then have a night or two a week where you have your beers and curry - I'm sure your increased metabolic rate from your workouts will take care of that.

If you don't lose weight, try more exercise or less beer - whichever you can tolerate the easiest :)
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Honestly, a couple of nights on the beer alone will not be sorted by a few 30 mins sessions.
If you want an increased metabolic rate for a longer period of time then do weights (not just circuits either, proper lifting where you tax the system).
Stopping beer / lager and changing to something else would be a good option.
 
'Fatty fatty four eyes'

That is inspirational. Negative energy can be a strong asset in a quest to better yourself.
 
davethe11 said:
Best of luck benjarghmin with the dieting, if you do have a beer/food binge dont feel guilty about it, just have a good walk the next day and burn it off then get back on the healthy food until the next time you want to binge :)
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Thanks, although technically the binge was rather a pathetic binge - only ended up having 2200 calories in total anyway :)

Just had my weekly weigh-in and have lost 3kg this week. Pretty happy ;)

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Voltar said:
You have a noble passion, sir and tbh you should enjoy it!
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Hah, you make being fat sound like being part of an elite club of noblemen.
 
6' 3", 9 stone 10lbs.

I eat about 1 meal a day, work 2 evenings a week and all weekend (when I eat more), but apart from that I don't do anything "active", thus I don't get hungry. My body seems to be very scalable, when I do stuff I get hungry, when I don't, my body ticks over at idle.

Seriously, when you're dieting, listen to your body. Break the routine of eating breakfast/lunch/dinner, if you don't feel hungry, don't eat. Further to this, when you are eating a big meal such as dinner, nealy everyone puts about 50% too much food on their plate, and eat fast before their body knows what hit it. Eat slower, allow your body time to tell you that it's full.

To quote Dr Cox from scrubs: "Hate your body, the second you look in the mirror and are happy with what you see, you have lost the battle"
Turk: "You should give talks to teenage girls" :D :p
 
Cyberstrike2027 said:
6' 3", 9 stone 10lbs.

I eat about 1 meal a day, work 2 evenings a week and all weekend (when I eat more), but apart from that I don't do anything "active", thus I don't get hungry. My body seems to be very scalable, when I do stuff I get hungry, when I don't, my body ticks over at idle.

Seriously, when you're dieting, listen to your body. Break the routine of eating breakfast/lunch/dinner, if you don't feel hungry, don't eat. Further to this, when you are eating a big meal such as dinner, nealy everyone puts about 50% too much food on their plate, and eat fast before their body knows what hit it. Eat slower, allow your body time to tell you that it's full.
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no no no no no.
do not skip meals. infact, eat more often.
 
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