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How difficult it is for a company to get around this step will be the key...
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I assume it will just be a case of whether the employer has applications from residents. If nobody from round the area wanted to work in the factory, and there is immigrants that would love that job, then i have no issue whatsoever with it. Hopefully if these are strict enough, it will only let people in that want to work and will only fill places nobody from england wants.
Until the shambles of a benefit system is reworked so that people who can work but don't want to are forced too, it won't make any difference.
What he said.
Absolutely agree.
I don't think this is going to be the cure that certain people are looking for.
As mentioned, people from within the EU will still have the same rights to enter the UK. Also, asylum seekers obviously won't need to apply through the points system either.
This new system is only going to affect people from outside the EU (mostly Australia/New Zealand/South Africa, I'd reckon) who are looking to enter the country to work. It's going to annoy business owners and do little else.
As mentioned, people from within the EU will still have the same rights to enter the UK. Also, asylum seekers obviously won't need to apply through the points system either.
This new system is only going to affect people from outside the EU (mostly Australia/New Zealand/South Africa, I'd reckon) who are looking to enter the country to work. It's going to annoy business owners and do little else.
Yep.
Tunney said:
Well, that's kinda OK, but what we need to do is tighten up our asylum policies i.e. ensure that people genuinely need asylum, and also figure out why the hell they made it all the way to Britain when asylum is supposed to mean that you stop in the first friendly country, not the one where you'll get the easiest ride.
Tunney said:
Sounds like good old fashioned British beauracracy then!
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We need people doing the manual labour, we HAVE the people to do it, but we pay them to stay at home instead!
That is ok, but it only applies to workers outside the EU, we'll still get all the eastern european people coming over without having to have a job..
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Sounds more like quid pro quo to me, if you want to go to America, Australia, Canada or New Zealand then you have to fulfil the points requirements so it simply sounds like their arrangements are being reciprocated here.
I'm not entirely convinced that any of the citizens of those countries would be coming to the UK for a 'better' life or vice versa so the points system seems a trifle unnecessary there - perhaps my view is coloured by the fact that I'd quite like to live in Canada for a few years and it is going to be a bit of hassle to do so.
My employer had to do this when I was working in Canada. There are many exemptions; mainly for positions in catering,healthcare,construction. Basically anything low skilled/there is a perceived shortage of staff. My job didn't fall into this bracket so they had to prove no Canadian could do my job. This was done by advertising the position in two different sources for a minimum of 1 week and then not hiring anyone who applies. Canadian immigration/work visa rules are far far stricter then anything in the UK, I very much doubt that the new rules will be tougher then theirs.
The new rules will not change anything except making a bit more paperwork to fill out.
Good new, but it still doesn't do anything for those within the EU.
That is ok, but it only applies to workers outside the EU, we'll still get all the eastern european people coming over without having to have a job..
And we to are able to go anywhere else in Europe without having to waste time filling out a tonne of paperwork!
Very easy, you either offer pay so low only an immigrant would work there hence you don't get any applications from people already in the UK, or you could say that all staff must be fluent in Polish for instance and there will be very few British people who are who also wish to work in a factory for minimum wage. This would be a green light to allow them to employ foreign workers.
But as has already been said the new rules will only affect workers from outside Europe, so the majority of people that will be affected are skilled workers from America/Australia etc. I don't believe many people from third world countries apply to come to the UK in this way so won't be affected.
