Do i have to pay for phone call cost to reactivation my vista retail

Rob7865 said:
Chaparral - your a morron! :rolleyes:

Your bashing MS for something that is nothing to do with them, and rather then spend the £1 to get a Cheapo phone, you'd rather spend £££ on a 6 min Mobile phone call, and then b1tch about it - Get a life!
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chaparral said:
So you think the activation in vista is nothing to do with MS :p

Sorry but i think your being the total morron here
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No. You complained about Activation not being FREE.

He pointed out that it's not Microsoft's fault if someone with a landline choses to use a mobile (which charges him for what would have been a FREE call).
 
chaparral said:
yes i have a landline line,,,But i don't own a landline phone,,
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:D

If this is true than that's hilarious! It might be worth picking up a phone for a few quid, imagine if your house caught fire and your mobile was flat... How would phone 999? :eek::p

If it's not true this is also hilarious as you've certainly got a few peoples backs up!:D
 
I love the fact he openly brags about what he owns in his sig - but cannot afford to buy a cheap landline phone and then whines about having to spend out on using a mobile to call a FREE number! - A1 nutta!
 
Whats with all the "activation fanboys", have people become so weak willed they will just bend over and take it from microsoft when they should never have implemented phone only activation (or any kind of activation at all) in the first place? :confused: I can't believe people are actually calling the op a moron (who (ironically) don't appear to be capable of reading the faq themselves), and effectivley supporting draconian activation for not wanting to give in to microsofts will.
 
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Energize said:
Whats with all the "activation fanboys", have people become so weak willed they will just bend over and take it from microsoft when they should never have implemented phone only activation (or any kind of activation at all) in the first place? :confused: I can't believe people are actually calling the op names, (and effectivley supporting draconian activation) for not wanting to give in to microsofts will.
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How is the current activation situation draconian? It isn't, especially as MS is a business not a state run entitlement.

Don't like activation, well you don't have to use the software, or alternatively you could support anti-piracy initiatives that would make activation systems unnecessary...
 
Energize said:
Whats with all the "activation fanboys", have people become so weak willed they will just bend over and take it from microsoft when they should never have implemented phone only activation (or any kind of activation at all) in the first place? :confused: I can't believe people are actually calling the op a moron (who (ironically) don't appear to be capable of reading the faq themselves), and effectivley supporting draconian activation for not wanting to give in to microsofts will.
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I for one am not an 'activation fanboy', I just have a shred of common sense. The OP's position is rather comical at best and MS have provided a toll free number to phone if you can't activate online.

Why shouldn't MS have implemented activation? They have a right to protect their IP and have made reasonable steps to make sure it's as easy as possible.

You're just moaning for the sake of moaning, get a grip.

Burnsy
 
chaparral said:
0800 numbers Maybe free from mobile phones in england....but it not free from mobile phones in the channel islands (guernsey)
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a fellow Guernseyman on here i see. ;) its just a pain getting anything over here fullstop. anyway, i'm sure you could've used someone else's landline? seeing as it's free anyway. :confused:
 
Burnsy2023 said:
I for one am not an 'activation fanboy', I just have a shred of common sense. The OP's position is rather comical at best and MS have provided a toll free number to phone if you can't activate online.
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Maybe. But they should have allowed him to activate online. That is the easiest way to activate.

Why shouldn't MS have implemented activation?
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Because it increases piracy, people who otherwise would have bought the software can't be bothered with activation and just use a vlk instead. You don't expect to have to re-active the retail software you paid £200 for because you changed a component. Microsoft have been making it increasing difficult to use their software over the past decade. Activation every time you change motherboard/ram/gpu, wga, drm and now not even allowing online activation after x number of changes.

I hope I don't live to see the day when every piece of software on your pc needs re-activating by premium rate phone line because you plugged in a new usb memory stick, because everyone just put up with it and told others not to complain.
 
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Energize said:
Because it increases piracy, people who otherwise would have bought the software can't be bothered with activation and just use a vlk instead.
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Which is a lot more difficult with VLK 2.0.

Energize said:
I hope I don't live to see the day when every piece of software on your pc needs re-activating by premium rate phone line because you plugged in a new usb memory stick, because everyone just put up with it and told others not to complain.
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Oh you are a drama queen. It takes about 3-4 mins to activate over the phone and the vast majority of people only have to do this once or twice a year at most. And the point most people are trying to make is that it's not a premium rate number, it's not even local rate, it's toll free for goodness sake.

I really don't understand why people don't just spend their effort spending a few minutes on the phone rather then moaning about it every opportunity they get.

Burnsy
 
Vista still is fully functional though with out activation you get updates unlike XP where you cant, he doesn’t need to activate straight away so if he paying for a line why not order/buy a phone and make the call? I defiantly wouldn’t be moaning about something this petty, MS have setup a freephone number what else do you want them to do?
 
fothsn said:
MS have setup a freephone number what else do you want them to do?
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Internet activation? For a computer software company it's somewhat ironic to be able to only use a telephone. If they just allowed infinite internet activations, this situation would never have occured and countless amounts of money would be saved by not having call centres and automated telephone systems.

Burnsy2023 said:
Which is a lot more difficult with VLK 2.0.
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Yet still very easy judging by the increasing number of pirate copies.
 
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but with infinite internet activations, surely that would also increase the number of essentially illegal copies of vista being installed because it wouldnt be limited to 1 PC like it is now for hte OEM versions. someone could easily buy an OEM copy and install it on 3 machines in their house and activate them all
 
cokecan72 said:
but with infinite internet activations, surely that would also increase the number of essentially illegal copies of vista being installed because it wouldnt be limited to 1 PC like it is now for hte OEM versions. someone could easily buy an OEM copy and install it on 3 machines in their house and activate them all
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They can do that anyway, they just say that it's only installed on one pc on the phone and it gets activated.

Caged said:
As far as I'm aware the pirate versions use BIOS emulation, not volume license keys.
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It's possible to easily create spoof kms servers to activate enterprise editions of vista using a vlk. People using xp can just enter a keygen'd vlk and off they go though.

But yeah most cracks just modify the registry or similar though.
 
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