I'm not going to argue this one - Piquet isn't performing. Unfortunately Renault arn't helping him. You've got to be some sort of clot to send a rookie out on slicks around a wet Monaco on a hunch if Alonso was sliding around like he was on an ice rink. The usual Renault radio trick of "Pull your finger out and drive faster" from Pat Symonds still isn't working after 3 seasons of embarassing Fisi, so why berate a rookie in the same fashion? To finish first, first you have to finish.
2008 Monaco GP - Race 6/18
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I'm not going to argue this one - Piquet isn't performing. Unfortunately Renault arn't helping him. You've got to be some sort of clot to send a rookie out on slicks around a wet Monaco on a hunch if Alonso was sliding around like he was on an ice rink. The usual Renault radio trick of "Pull your finger out and drive faster" from Pat Symonds still isn't working after 3 seasons of embarassing Fisi, so why berate a rookie in the same fashion? To finish first, first you have to finish.
Right. And in those six races:
1) Spain, he had a wheel fail and pitch him off the track at unabated speed.
2) Monaco, his car stalled before the parade lap forcing him to start dead last on a track not renowned for being easy to overtake on. He still got a point out of the weekend.
3) Turkey, he got his tyre punctured by Kimi in the opening minute of the race.
So there are three races where decent results have probably gone begging. Three, out of the six held so far. And on at least two of those occasions the thing that did his race in was pretty much completely out of his control - Spain certainly was, Turkey's puncture was probably Kimi's fault. As for stalling, Heikki said post-race that he had to change steering wheels so presumably the car was the problem again?
And look at Hamilton's worst race this year - Bahrain, which was almost a horror show. Crashed in practice - his fault. Qualified back in 4th. Buggered up the start. Ran into the back of Alonso. The only thing that stopped him being the sole winner of F1 Rejects' "Reject Of The Race" award was the fact that Button, DC, Mad Max, ITV's commentary team and The News Of The World were all equally as deserving. I haven't seen Heikki screw up quite as bad as that yet this season
*I feel a bet coming on.
Like I said, it'll depend on whether or not McLaren let him get into the position of being able to challenge his almighty team mate at any race this year from here on in. I have a sneaking suspicion that they'll use the points advantage that The Messiah™ currently has to justify making him a full-on Number 1 driver for the remainder of the season.
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* - though I'm sure you'll correct that if I'm wrong.
There will come a point in this season where Heikki will be needing to win or score well in races. There really needs to be a couple McLaren 1-2's to help boost their constructors points. But also by the end of the season Hamilton will be needing to keep as many points away from his immediate rivals at Ferrari as possible and one way of doing that is to make sure your team mate comes 2nd or 3rd.
I am almost certain that Heikki will win at least one race this year. And it will be on merit not luck.
I am almost certain that Heikki will win at least one race this year. And it will be on merit not luck.
Maybe even 4.
1. Lewis Hamilton 38
2. Kimi Raikkonen 35
3. Felipe Massa 34
4. Robert Kubica 32
Kubica is still very much in touch.
Funny the things that pop into your head when you're sat topping up your caffeine levels. The race at Monaco last year was dry. The top four in qualifying were:
1) Alonso.
2) The Messiah™.
3) Massa.
4) Fisichella.
Anyone remember what order they finished in? No?
1) Alonso.
2) The Messiah™.
3) Massa.
4) Fisichella.
This must be why I barely remember anything of that race bar the result - nothing must have happened at the front at all! Maybe they ought to liberally spray water all over the Monaco streets every time the Grand Prix is in town, seems to be the only way to generate any excitement in recent times....
1) Alonso.
2) The Messiah™.
3) Massa.
4) Fisichella.
Anyone remember what order they finished in? No?
1) Alonso.
2) The Messiah™.
3) Massa.
4) Fisichella.
This must be why I barely remember anything of that race bar the result - nothing must have happened at the front at all! Maybe they ought to liberally spray water all over the Monaco streets every time the Grand Prix is in town, seems to be the only way to generate any excitement in recent times....
I wasn't much of an apology though. Was more of a "Yeah I hit him, couldn't have done much" then a bunch of excuses about performing so badly.
Oh well. I agree with JRS. Monaco is a rubbish racing circuit. More of a karting track really. Even the GP2 race was boring. Thankfully the rain saved us from a snore fest! An irrigation system is needed but they race at night with the cars fitted with headlights.
I found that very amusing.
The decision to send the rookie out on slicks was made moments after we saw Alonso - the double world champion - struggling to keep his car on the road.
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"Ha Piquet's gonna trash it." "Out goes Piquet" "Piquet's got no chance"
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BOOM!
Totally agree. Im sure the McLaren management, have been telling Heikki this - he simply has to start scoring points.
The way I see it, Heikki has to compete with Massa, leaving Hamilton to fight his Ferrari counterpart - Kimi.
I feel another bet coming along. And I dont think Heikki can win a race this season, based on merit. He might win if the 2 Ferraris and Hamilton drop out.
Damn, I'm turning this into a major Heikki bashing session, when I didnt intend it to be that, but you guys are badgering me into beating up on him. For the record, I think he is faster than Hamilton, over a single lap.
hahahahahahahahahahahaha The Messiah, so funny
LOL thats what I was thinking, too.
Typical of the Brits to knock someone who is succesful. Why do people hate on Lewis Hamilton so much? I work for a team that is in competition with the guy and wish him nothing but success. This Messiah crap is annoying,enough haters in the world without OcUK forums joining in.
Britain - The only nation that wills its sportsmen and women to fail!
I just dont get it. Hes british, hes winning, unless your racisit, what is there to oppose?
So you work for Red Bull? Cool. Got any vacancies for a Business and Computing graduate?
Not quite, change 'flash' with 'unimaginative' and you have my view.