will the ps3 ever reach the standard of xbox live?

Won't be better, not enough people have headsets and I can't see that improving significantly due to the lack of inclusion with the console.

It's a huge part of the online service, otherwise PSN would be a viable alternative for me, as of now I just go for the 360 versions purely because nobody speaks on PSN...
 
as a games network? it already is

as a social network? they have a while yet

to be fair, many people are moaning about the social network of xbox Live because of how many idiots there are on it.

Also nobody talking on PSN isn't actually a bad thing IMO.

No whining americans, i don't need to listen to 15 year olds moaning and saying things about my mum etc. I often plug in my headset into live so the crap doesn't come through the TV. Also i play in a room with someone else in it, so not great to talk online.
 
PSN does what i want it to do and thats play online for FREE, so for me i do begrudge paying for LIVE esp for the amount i do use it for, yes it may be pence per day but TBH it shouldn't be charging for something that should be free when the majority of games are hosted by yourself or joining other hosts and have lag issue's, after all you don't pay for most of your PC games online do you?....There's enough advertising adverts on the dashboard and ingame adverts seem to be all a trend these days so why just not make it a free service for all.
 
I think the answer to the OP's question is subjective tbh.

Sony's online service is better than Xbox LIVE imo because it gives me everything that I want already for free. I can now read and send messages whilst in game and that's what I really wanted to be able to do. I wouldn't use things like voice chat or cross game invites etc anyway so to me they are not needed. Obviousley to a lot of you guys though these things are important so you will still prefer LIVE over PSN.

I do think that MS will have to review their pricing for LIVE or even consider making it free as Sony close the gap though!
 
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While I enjoy the free online gaming side of the PS3 I still value Live as the far superior OS/Online-Service.

Sony are making in-roads all be it slowly but I'm sure they'll get their in the end. I just don't think that will be in the lifespan of the 360.
 
I think the answer to the OP's question is subjective tbh.

Sony's online service is better than Xbox LIVE imo because it gives me everything that I want already for free. I can now read and send messages whilst in game and that's what I really wanted to be able to do. I wouldn't use things like voice chat or cross game invites etc anyway so to me they are not needed. Obviousley to a lot of you guys though these things are important so you will still prefer LIVE over PSN.

I do think that MS will have to review their pricing for LIVE or even consider making it free as Sony close the gap though!

Yeap i'm with you.

I have long championed that MS should offer online play for free, but all the voice chat and nonsense should be chargable.
 
Of course, when Microsoft make money through live... what was it, £1bn? That's not easy to say 'heck, we don't need £1bn, let them have it free'.
 
or will it stay the same?

It will no doubt improve but I doubt it will ever be as complete an experience as it is on the 360, personally I don't mind though, I like the extra feeling of anonymity I get from the PS3 service, I didn't buy it for it's on-line features, I very rarely play console games on-line tbh, that's were my PC comes in handy, part of what I did'nt like about the 360 is that it felt too community orientated, I know for many thats why you love the 360 and the live service, but for me it was a minus point, when I boot up my PS3 and I'm confronted with the XMB I don't feel I've just logged into a large community, I like that.

I understand from an objective point of view why people love the live service, if your into being part of a thriving on-line community and you enjoy playing on-line games and hooking up with friends regularly on-line then I think the live service is great and certainly worth it's subscription, but for me personally I find the live service a little to 'in your face', I'm not sure people will get what I mean :o but still.
 
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Yeap i'm with you.

I have long championed that MS should offer online play for free, but all the voice chat and nonsense should be chargable.

Yeah that sounds reasonable. I really don't play online enough to warrant paying a fee like you do for LIVE, but I would still like to play online once in a while. I have COD4 on PS3 and have only played online half a dozen times, but thoroughly enjoyed it when I have - paying for this limited online time would be a complete waste of money imo, but for someone who hammers it daily then it's going to be worthwhile.
 
At the moment, no. I truely think MS are taking majority of the market.

People tend to have a Wii and then either a 360 or a PS3 or maybe all 3.

I would like to see Sony pull something different out of the bag, other than keep going on about how they have Blu-ray, When the whole main reason you buy a console (for me personally) is to play games, not to watch Movies/TV.

I read a reply a few posts back saying how PS3 has dedicated servers and 360 has none.

Not true, for example if im correct, BF:BC has dedicated serviers, as well as some EA games. etc.

I think the mix of P2P and Dedicated servers between the two consoles are tied imo.
 
It depends on how much you use the features. personally I just want to play online, don't need friends lists or voice or anything else...

The fact i can do that for free with Sony is better for me. I own both systems, and cba to pay for live.
 
At the moment, no. I truely think MS are taking majority of the market.

People tend to have a Wii and then either a 360 or a PS3 or maybe all 3.

I would like to see Sony pull something different out of the bag, other than keep going on about how they have Blu-ray, When the whole main reason you buy a console (for me personally) is to play games, not to watch Movies/TV.

I read a reply a few posts back saying how PS3 has dedicated servers and 360 has none.

Not true, for example if im correct, BF:BC has dedicated serviers, as well as some EA games. etc.

I think the mix of P2P and Dedicated servers between the two consoles are tied imo.

Well Sony Showed more games than Microsoft and more new games, only mentioned Blu ray twice, MS showed off netflix, avatars and the new dashboard so who was more concentrated on games?
As for dedicated servers only UT3, BF BC and frontlines, UT3 and BFBC are both on the PS3 and have dedicated servers also, so that leaves front lines which has 90 dedicated servers on a few maps only. Warhawk has hundreds of servers all over the world for all maps and modes, same for Resistance, same for all Sony First party games, GT5 will, Res2, LBP will, KZ2 will etc etc.
 
It depends on how much you use the features. personally I just want to play online, don't need friends lists or voice or anything else...

Yeah I know what you mean, that's why I enjoy gaming on the PC, you don't feel like your space is being invaded upon, playing games on-line on the PS3 does feel more like the PC on-line gaming experience to me, which is what I prefer.
 
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Well Sony Showed more games than Microsoft and more new games, only mentioned Blu ray twice, MS showed off netflix, avatars and the new dashboard so who was more concentrated on games?
As for dedicated servers only UT3, BF BC and frontlines, UT3 and BFBC are both on the PS3 and have dedicated servers also, so that leaves front lines which has 90 dedicated servers on a few maps only. Warhawk has hundreds of servers all over the world for all maps and modes, same for Resistance, same for all Sony First party games, GT5 will, Res2, LBP will, KZ2 will etc etc.

I think the overall times they said Blu-ray was 19 times within the 1hr 30mins. Remember reading about it yesterday on QJ.

As I did say, for me personally, I did feel the calibre of games shown on the MS conference were a lot better, and also it sold the games more for me on the 360 as they gave better introductions, descriptions and shown actual in-game gameplay. rather than mostly CGI trailers which always kinda puts me off. Only my opinion, people will defo think different to me.
 
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Well Sony Showed more games than Microsoft and more new games, only mentioned Blu ray twice, MS showed off netflix, avatars and the new dashboard so who was more concentrated on games?

Probably because the only thing Sony seem to have up their sleeves at the moment is Home which is depressingly late again. Sony seem to have a very different definition of "soon" than anyone else other than maybe geologists.
 
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