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See, I don't get the bit that claims it's "****** albums" or crap stuff "I wouldn't have bought", and yet people are prepared to be dishonest and risk getting caught to download it...
Just doesn't add up really does it?
Depends, I've downloaded some games I wouldn't have bought, would have just not bothered playing at all.
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It's annoying that most people believe that it's downloading that is the illegal part.
It's the act of uploading (sharing) that is the problem.
It's the act of uploading (sharing) that is the problem.
I thought the same. Do you have a source?
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It was a perfectly valid analogy, what are you on about? Or did his post fly over your head?
For the life of me I'll never remember where but in this very forum, someone once posted they bought a game, played it through, it had a crap ending, then declared "I wish I had downloaded this on torrent instead. I'm never buying another game again.".
It's this mindset that is detrimental to the industry. The beauty of films, games, music etc., is wealth creation, not wealth distribution. It's a big contributor to our economy and brings foreign money into the country as we export goods that don't consume vast natural resources.
I think people get stuck in the "non-material" mindset. Because it's not tactile, it has no value, which is very, very wrong.
If I write a program and put it on CD for sale, but you don't like it, don't buy it. To download it and use it anyway is copyright infringement technically but feels like theft to the producer. I for one am not going to dilute a key economic contributing industry by poncing stuff because I object to the law or am tight.
It's this mindset that is detrimental to the industry. The beauty of films, games, music etc., is wealth creation, not wealth distribution. It's a big contributor to our economy and brings foreign money into the country as we export goods that don't consume vast natural resources.
I think people get stuck in the "non-material" mindset. Because it's not tactile, it has no value, which is very, very wrong.
If I write a program and put it on CD for sale, but you don't like it, don't buy it. To download it and use it anyway is copyright infringement technically but feels like theft to the producer. I for one am not going to dilute a key economic contributing industry by poncing stuff because I object to the law or am tight.
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That's complete rubbish.
So you'd the same sentence for stealing a mars bar as you would the crown jewels?
EDIT: I have no proof of this but I'd like to bet the average l sentence for killing marred man with children is longer than that of tramps, and conviction rate higher also.
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It's good that they are but the return on investment isn't what it was due to piracy.
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So basically they've had to lower prices. About time, they've been over priced for far too long. Especially console games where hardware manufactures have been using anti-competitive practises for over two decades.
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How is comparing a criminal offense to a civil matter in anyway valid? Unless you use the tenuous link that both are illegal?
Copyright Infringement is not theft, nor is it comparable to murder in anyway. It is also not Piracy as that is theft on the High Seas.
Perhaps people should not be so quick to judge others nor should they be so quick to deem the Music, Movie and Game industry to be in the right. They have motives for their actions and they are mostly desperate attempts to control the industry.
Oh and his post didn't fly over my head at all. His comparison is plain silly.
Stop overcomplicating his point. He was stating that the crime is still committed no matter who the victim is. Nothing more.
A big '
' for thinking he was actually comparing muder and copyright infringement.Ahh, that's a different topic but you're right. I too feel console games are ridiculously expensive and invites piracy. However, you have to ask where most of the money goes? Does the development team who make the intellectual investment get the rewards or the publishing company with their channels to market? Unfortunately there's too many layers in the sales process pushing the price up. Perhaps one day when we've all got 100Mb b/b we can download direct from the developer at a much lower price. There's enough websites out there, gamespot.com for example, to market the games by reviewing them, making the publisher redundant.
Downloading a game that isn't made anymore is not the same as downloading a new game as there is no lost profit.
That isn't the case, you can upload any data under that torrent, media companies commonly do it to try to corrupt peoples downloads. Just because someone is up or downloading that torrent does not mean they are uploading copyrighted material and such evidence would not stand up in court if contested.
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Stop overcomplicating his point. He was stating that the crime is still committed no matter who the victim is. Nothing more.
A big '
He was also comparing tariffs for crimes. I would wager than somebody who murdered a respectable family man would get longer than somebody who murdered a tramp.
Anyway, the point still stands that he was comparing a serious criminal matter to a civil one. Yes a crime was committed in both cases but it is like comparing apples to tomatoes. Both fruit but vastly different.
I strongly dislike the way that copyright infringement is over exaggerated as being real bad, especially when it is, in such adverts as those in the cinema shown to paying customers, compared to theft. IT IS NOT THEFT.
The problem is solvable by having fair and decent pricing for model especially downloads and then more people will be willing to thick: I'll buy rather than copy. Only those die hard people that hoover the Internet for warez will keep going and I doubt you could ever stop them.
I used to download a lot but now that songs are on iTunes for a few pence and services such as Love Film and Boomerang Rentals have arrived I can no longer see the point.
Hopefully the media industries will see the light.
Torrents are pretty safe though, is just users of e-donkey or whatever its called.
I for one am tempted to move over to newsgroups, but torrents do me well for now.
The tech will always side-step the issue anyway, so its a non-issue in my book.
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