Give Scotland Independance

I think we should give Scotland independence.

Then on the following day we can invade and dominate with our vastly superior military power.
 
Superficial said:
its so sad that Scots still think they invented the telephone LOL

Antonio Meucchi invented it FFS! - its a well known fact that Bell stole Meuchi’s plans from the patent office for goodness sake

Alexander Graham Bell is the worlds most famous theif lol
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What a load of crap, its speculation and thats about it. Theres a book out alleging he stole the idea from Elisha Gray and not meuchi.

When its all said and done not much can be proven either way, from what ive read and what reviews have said the book contains NOTHING but circumstantial evidence.

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Ross1234 said:
Lol this thead is funny. You englishes are well jelous of our free uni. im enjoying it right now. He he. And you have to pay :) If it is being payed for by your taxes as you say (i know for a fact its not) then even better. I shall be sure to apply for all the grants i can.

Scotland is a great country and is at the front of a lot of modern research. Also theres tons of oil left.

im not going to go saying english is rubbish, because its not. Both can be good, not one or the other.

Scotland could support itself alone. The labour party admitted this.

So, to all you brainwashed scottish hating englishes, I say "Ha Ha stuff you i get free uni"
EDIT: oh and by the way if this becomes a scottish vs english thread, i dont mind. I shall be happy to join in. (we will win)
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Ha Ha joke's on you, you still live in Scotland.

Anyway, good job to the OP. **** stirring at it's most blatent :p
 
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Superficial said:
oh dear so much for it being Scottish Oil...

http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/malachy-tallack/2007/04/shetland-scotland-independence

Looks like the Scots have no more right to the majority of the Oil than the English lol.
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Yes, no and maybe. It will depend on if you want to pick geographical proximity, location of home bases, company ownership, funding or some other basis on which to decide. However since Shetland is not an independent state it cannot claim an Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ) of its own and instead falls under the jurisdiction of the UK's one, if Scotland becomes independent then it can claim an EEZ and depending on whether or not Shetland also becomes independent or throws its lot in with either Scotland or what remains of the UK changes the situation significantly.

Frankly I'd say it is a largely pointless argument given that the UK as a whole is unlikely to allow Scotland to secede and take the oil and gas fields with it until they are largely thought to be finished as a valuable economic asset.

Personally I'm probably not in favour of an independent Scotland, I think the Union as a whole is stronger than any of the individual countries would be and we all bring something valuable to the equation (yeah, that's just deep fried Mars Bars from the Scots before some wag picks up on this point). Scotland I'm certain would survive without being a part of the UK and may even thrive but it would be difficult initially and seems like a lot of risk for an uncertain gain.
 
I think it's funny listening to the English moan on about how they don't want to join the Euro. They want to keep the pound and their "English" identity and do not want to be told by Europe what to do. This is the very thing Scotland has had to put up with from England for centuries.

Another thing I have noticed in recent years that obviously highlights English people fear of loosing their identity is the flying of the St George flag. When ever I watch a sporting event the crowd is full of them, when not so long ago you would hardly see one as it was always a Union Jack they flew. Maybe England should become independent if that’s what they really want. Us Scots can then keep our oil and our fresh water and sell it to the English when they run out of supplies.
 
Maybe England should have let Scotland go under in 1707 and then bought it cheap.

Muahahaha, hand me the big wooden spoon for stirring!

After 6 pages I haven't read, is anyone still believing that anything in Braveheart was true apart from a few names?
 
DezUk said:
I think it's funny listening to the English moan on about how they don't want to join the Euro. They want to keep the pound and their "English" identity and do not want to be told by Europe what to do. This is the very thing Scotland has had to put up with from England for centuries.

Another thing I have noticed in recent years that obviously highlights English people fear of loosing their identity is the flying of the St George flag. When ever I watch a sporting event the crowd is full of them, when not so long ago you would hardly see one as it was always a Union Jack they flew. Maybe England should become independent if that’s what they really want. Us Scots can then keep our oil and our fresh water and sell it to the English when they run out of supplies.
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We don’t have our own fresh water and oil supplies? No of course we don’t, you will probably find the Oil supply you so call yours I believe most of it belong to us? The English have put massive finding into it, so maybe we will sell it to you when Scotland runs out of supplies ;) :D
 
Angilion said:
Maybe England should have let Scotland go under in 1707 and then bought it cheap.

Muahahaha, hand me the big wooden spoon for stirring!

After 6 pages I haven't read, is anyone still believing that anything in Braveheart was true apart from a few names?
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Maybe if the English hadn't shafted the Darian project in the first place this conversation would be unnecessary. :p

Braveheart is obviously a load of cobblers although passably entertaining jingoistic tripe at that. If you haven't already seen it I'd highly recommend the Stewart Lee interpretation of the story, performed while in Glasgow and available on YouTube although I think it contains swearing so I won't link.

Swordfish said:
Back up your arrogant claims !
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I don't think Scuzi will somehow, I wouldn't take the comments too seriously.
 
I've just come back from a rather relaxing weekend in Bath and I was amazed at the tolerance my English masters showed me. I was allowed to use a hotel and even speak to some of the gentry before being chased - politely, of course - out of town.

Bravo, England, bravo!
 
DezUk said:
Scotland has Oil, whiskey, tourism, fresh water and good people. What the hell does England have apart from a bunch of hooligans and big headed arrogant *******.

And yes there is plenty off oil left, if you look at the Norwegians they are still finding oil wells and they drill from the same waters as us. It's Scottish oil and if we had it to ourselves we would have been one of the richest countries per population in the world. The way it has turned out the British government has to come crying to the oil companies for the tax money ahead of anyone else to keep this shambles of a United Kingdom in tact.

Added to this Scotland has given some of the greatest inventions and discoveries to date. Telephone, TV and penicillin to name a few. Again what has England given to the world?
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Oh dear thats one bitter scottsman, you can have your contry with a cherry on top aswell, :p
 
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