Lets see some of your Fiddy shots (50mm)

Raymond Lin said:
so will the kit lens, i know it can be sharper but the aperture is a big part of the reason I bought thus lens, I don't really want to shoot at f4.
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Agreed - but in good light when the 'wide open' speed's not needed the lens can be stopped down.

Mine is sharp at f/1.8 (1.6 is pretty acceptable too) which still allows great bokeh and a very shallow focal plane: HERE

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gt_junkie said:
Agreed - but in good light when the 'wide open' speed's not needed the lens can be stopped down.

Mine is sharp at f/1.8 (1.6 is pretty acceptable too) which still allows great bokeh and a very shallow focal plane: HERE

gt
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I think his 2 shots are acceptable, the 1.4 helped with it being 1/15s and 1/40s, any higher and you'll need steady hands or higher ISO, kinda defeats the point of that wide lens no?
 
Mr Jones said:
I think his 2 shots are acceptable, the 1.4 helped with it being 1/15s and 1/40s, any higher and you'll need steady hands or higher ISO, kinda defeats the point of that wide lens no?
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I don't dispute that the 1.4 is important - that's why i got it, but it's not really the be all and end all.

It's more that it's capability is available in lower light conditions when you want to run lower ISO's or really need to take a picture when it's rediculously dark.

From what i've seen very few users actually run their lenses wide open as stopping them down by one or two notches can sharpen up the 'in focus' sections but still give an awesome bokeh.

TBH though - i do shoot wide open when needed and the lens returns good shots just like Raymonds. I was simply stating that stopping it down would sharpen the result.

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Personally I think stopping down the lens a little bit would improve those images - they are too soft, especially the one of the beverage. It looks so soft to the point where I'm not sure where the point of focus is. Increasing the DoF a little bit might increase the impact the cup has.

The one of the (pretty ;)) girl isn't as bad, but it (imo) looks a little bit like it was taken on a P&S.

Just my 2penneth.
 
I really never do understand these arguments when they come up.

Raymond knows how aperture works ... he was merely showing the bokeh and the lens at f/1.4. The fact that it could be sharper if he stopped it down is irrelevant - it's an image to show it working at f/1.4. If it was 'show us your nice sharp fiddy shots (f/2.8 and over ONLY)', it'd be in the thread title.

A similar thing happened to me when I got my 70-200 f/2.8 IS. I took some snaps with as low a shutter speed as I could to test my IS out and posted the results. I got brought up on the fact that the WB was off (no ****, they were snaps) and the fact that they would have been sharper if I'd upped the ISO. Yes, I was aware of that, but it wouldn't have been testing the IS then would it.

Sorry, but it is a bit ridiculous ...
 
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I thought this thread was about showing some favourite shots taken with this lens, not to show test images (as you suggested). What would be the point in that?

If Raymond Lin was indeed just showing us some shots he took at f/1.4 to see what happened then fair enough, no comment needed. However if he took those photos wide open because it was artistic choice (and from what he's said I gather this to be true), then I think our comments are justified. After all it's only our opinon - what's the point in showing us a photo if you don't want us to comment on it?
 
Amoeba said:
I thought this thread was about showing some favourite shots taken with this lens, not to show test images (as you suggested). What would be the point in that?

If Raymond Lin was indeed just showing us some shots he took at f/1.4 to see what happened then fair enough, no comment needed. However if he took those photos wide open because it was artistic choice (and from what he's said I gather this to be true), then I think our comments are justified. After all it's only our opinon - what's the point in showing us a photo if you don't want us to comment on it?
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No, I wasn't saying it was just to show test images, but the fact that it was ...
Raymond Lin said:
Nothing special, STRAIGHT out of the camera
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... did suggest to me that they weren't really meant to be artistic masterpieces - more some trial shots with a new lens (which it is). If he wanted that sort of critique on them, he would have processed the images etc etc.

I do agree that posting them invites critique, obviously. However, it has to be judged what critique is relevant for a shot.

Just my 2p, anyway.
 
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Raikiri said:
Shutter speed shouldn't make a difference to focus accuracy, here's a low light one for you:

F2.2 / 1/60s / ISO 800

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Granted, it's not the sharpest but he was jumping about the stage a fair bit.
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Is that guys name Josh? My mate working on his bands EP.
 
Raymond Lin said:
post 33 & 34 explains it.
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I don't want to carry on with this argument after this post as it's getting pretty boring, but those posts don't explain why the photos you posted were taken wide open. Post 41 does, and that post is the reason I wrote what I did.

A second opinion on something can often change the first opinon in my experience..

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Anyway back on topic, I'll see if I can find any images taken with my old Pentacon 50mm f1.8 :D
 
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Amoeba said:
I don't want to carry on with this argument after this post as it's getting pretty boring, but those posts don't explain why the photos you posted were taken wide open. Post 41 does, and that post is the reason I wrote what I did.
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I agree - doesn't really explain it.

I think a good image with as little processing as possible does the best at showing the capability of a lens... which is what i thought the point of a thread like this was.

Love your water shot by the way! :)

gt
 
Bah, lets not half guess what i was thinking and I'll tell you what i was thinking myself.

I bought a new lens, someone wants to see some photos from the new lens, i want to take some photos from the new lens. Now, I am only testing and they are not really meant to be held in a high regard, unprocessed, poor light, and frankly just snaps. Then i got crit for it could be sharper if i stop down a little.......no disrespect but no ship Sherlock, I know that lol.

This thread is "show us your fifty shots", it doesn't specify your best fifty shots, not to mention its a new lens and i want to see what it can do. That means shoot at 1.4, the thread is full of shots from the nifty shot at 1.8, so shooting at 1.4 for something different. You can crit the shots if thats what you feel like, and I take it al aboard, however I was merely showing some test shots at 1.4.

Anyway, lets get back on topic.
 
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