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bigredshark said:
How many flights a day from Manchester or Bristol to New York? There are something like 30 a day from Heathrow and Gatwick combined, which means if don't have to set up my entire day around when there's actually a flight, not to mention there are none at all to LA or San Francisco...
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Erm, surely you'd book an international flight in advance? So do you tend to turn up at airports just hoping to get to New York? That's a bit odd... I don't tend to turn up at airports and hope there's a flight somewhere in the next hour, I'd tend to look for things like cheaper flights in advance etc...

To be very honest, the availability of direct flights to LA or San Fran aren't exactly important to me (or I imagine most people) so it's a bit of non issue surely, it's not like I'm going to say "OMFG! there are no direct flights to Moscow from this airport! that's it I'm not moving to Manchester."
 
dangerstat said:
Erm, surely you'd book an international flight in advance? So do you tend to turn up at airports just hoping to get to New York? That's a bit odd... I don't tend to turn up at airports and hope there's a flight somewhere in the next hour, I'd tend to look for things like cheaper flights in advance etc...

To be very honest, the availability of direct flights to LA or San Fran aren't exactly important to me (or I imagine most people) so it's a bit of non issue surely, it's not like I'm going to say "OMFG! there are no direct flights to Moscow from this airport! that's it I'm not moving to Manchester."
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I was in the US 2 or 3 times a month for work a few months back, I don't always have luxury of taking a day out to sit on a plane so knowing there will be a flight at a time which suits me is important, and it's rarely booked more than few days in advance.

Most 'international' airports just offer a range of budget flights to european destinations, while that might suit everybody going on holiday it's not terribly helpful if you want to go somewhere else.
 
Johnny Girth said:
Are people living in backwards land? :p

Spitalfields is great. But yes, TH is a big borough and there are some seriously rubbish parts and some nice parts. Some of the estates aren't nice at all and bethnal green is just a giant steaming turd. Also TH are the worst council in the world.
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I didn't say Spitalfields was carp, I said around Spitalfields.
 
Above i read that 40k puts you in the top 10% of earners in the UK. Does anyone have any data beyond this as to what figure the top 5% (for example) is?
 
Jez said:
Above i read that 40k puts you in the top 10% of earners in the UK. Does anyone have any data beyond this as to what figure the top 5% (for example) is?
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You think you are in it? :p

ANyway the best research I can come up with is more than £121k to be in the top 5%.

A big leap from the top 10%
 
bigredshark said:
I was in the US 2 or 3 times a month for work a few months back, I don't always have luxury of taking a day out to sit on a plane so knowing there will be a flight at a time which suits me is important, and it's rarely booked more than few days in advance.

Most 'international' airports just offer a range of budget flights to european destinations, while that might suit everybody going on holiday it's not terribly helpful if you want to go somewhere else.
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Lol so Manchester is an "international" airport that just offers a range of budget flights? It's the 22 biggest airport in the WORLD. There's a difference between not being able to get somewhere, and not being able to get some where WITH a connection. Most of Manchester US based flights are designed with ongoing connections in mind. Honestly of all things I've heard defending london as place to live, direct flights to LA or San Fran is one of the most pathetic - no offense intended, it just is!
 
Greebo said:
You think you are in it? :p
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I have no idea, based on your guess i would say that i am a bit short. I find that £40k figure amazing for the top 10%, it really does seem very low indeed to think that 90% of people earn less than that.

Edit: I find the 95% figure is equally surprising.
 
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That sheet being entitled "total income", can we assume that the figures are taking into account everything on each personal tax return?
 
dangerstat said:
Lol so Manchester is an "international" airport that just offers a range of budget flights? It's the 22 biggest airport in the WORLD. There's a difference between not being able to get somewhere, and not being able to get some where WITH a connection. Most of Manchester US based flights are designed with ongoing connections in mind. Honestly of all things I've heard defending london as place to live, direct flights to LA or San Fran is one of the most pathetic - no offense intended, it just is!
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I wasn't defending it with that, I was explaining someone else's point, that if you pick a place then it's easier to get there from London than just about anywhere else in the UK. Even if it's not a flight, I can go from work to the center of paris in less than 3 hours, do I need to - course not but it's cool.

I think it's one of the best cities in the world, up there with new york, san francisco and the rest and it's the only city in the UK which can claim that. I love it to bits despite it being busy and expensive, there's no other big city in this country I'd live in. If you disagree or don't like it then it's no odds to me, you get to choose where you live.
 
Greebo said:
For 2006......so more like £60K+ now in 2008. Do you just sneak in now? :p
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Well, if you assume that rise...not on basic salary :mad:

But while inflation will have had an effect, salaries at the top end probably haven't gone up as much in the last year or so, so how much it's gone up is difficult to say...
 
bigredshark said:
I wasn't defending it with that, I was explaining someone else's point, that if you pick a place then it's easier to get there from London than just about anywhere else in the UK. Even if it's not a flight, I can go from work to the center of paris in less than 3 hours, do I need to - course not but it's cool.

I think it's one of the best cities in the world, up there with new york, san francisco and the rest and it's the only city in the UK which can claim that. I love it to bits despite it being busy and expensive, there's no other big city in this country I'd live in. If you disagree or don't like it then it's no odds to me, you get to choose where you live.
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That's cool. I just get in to this debate a lot with friends. And on average they can't really give any decent arguements as to why it makes any sense to live in London. For me London is often like a designer shop, it's nice to have a look in the window now and then, but if you go inside your surrounded by pretenious people and before you know it you're broke.
 
dangerstat said:
That's cool. I just get in to this debate a lot with friends. And on average they can't really give any decent arguements as to why it makes any sense to live in London. For me London is often like a designer shop, it's nice to have a look in the window now and then, but if you go inside your surrounded by pretenious people and before you know it you're broke.
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Not a bad way of putting it, too many people see what I'd call the bad parts of London. I don't like and generally don't visit the west end, kensington and round there. The expensive bits are full of rich arabs and russians flaunting their wealth without much subtlety, the west end is too full of tourists getting drunk and making it just like the little chav infested towns I hate outside of London. But there are plenty little havens to escape to...
 
What about the poor people who have no choice but to take jobs at the minimum wage of£5.73p an hour, which equates to around £12,000 a year.
With unemployment rising there are going to be a lot of high earners coming down to earth with a bump.
A friend of mine lives in rented accomadation with his girlfriend and there combined incomes are over 60K, but they cannot get a mortgage without a 40K deposit so they rent while trying to save up a deposit.
 
bigredshark said:
Not a bad way of putting it, too many people see what I'd call the bad parts of London. I don't like and generally don't visit the west end, kensington and round there. The expensive bits are full of rich arabs and russians flaunting their wealth without much subtlety, the west end is too full of tourists getting drunk and making it just like the little chav infested towns I hate outside of London. But there are plenty little havens to escape to...
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I had chance in 1989 to work for London Underground in PR for a year. I enjoyed my year in London and made sure I went to as many things as I could, theatre, musicals, films, resturants,football (lived opposite Highbury :D) etc but I was glad when I left.

I spent all the silly money I was earning every week (£30K back then) and I don't think I have earnt as much money since (accounting for inflation/cost of living) but it was needed in London tbh.

I found I couldn't cope with all the poeple, the tubes drove me mad and in the year I lived there I only got to know one of my neighbours (Marie Helvin ;)).

If you tried to talk to somebody on the tube the thought you were a nutter or a stalker :(

Much prefer it up north where people are friendlier.
 
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Greebo said:
I had chance in 1989 to work for London Underground in PR for a year. I enjoyed my year in London and made sure I went to as many things as I had, theatre, musicals, films, resturants,football (lived opposite Highbury :D) etc but I was glad when I left.

I spent all the sill money I was earning every week (£30K back then) and I don't think I have earnt as much money since (accounting for inflation/cost of living) but it was needed in London tbh.

I found I couldn't cope with all the poeple, the tubes drove me mad and in the year I lived there I only got to know one of my neighbours (Marie Helvin ;)).

If you tried to talk to somebody on the tube the thought you were a nutter or a stalker :(

Much prefer it up north where people are friendlier.
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That Sir is exactly how I feel. Jail head hit
 
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