January Transfer Window Thread - rumours and signings here

He's a good striker but not one you would risk 100k a week on and I think he knows that but his hand has been forced somewhat. I think he will just sit it out and go somewhere on a bosman and scoop the higher wages that way.

His biggest mistake ever was to go to Madrid and his second biggest was to go to Newcastle over Liverpool...
 
And there won't be signings at Arsenal this transfer time.
The greatest gift we'll get this year is fifth.

Oooh, where Diaby's never fit,
and our midfield is ****,
Do they know it's transfer time at all?


Sheer genius.
 
It's so frustrating that Arsenal are 2, maybe 3 players away from competing with Man Utd and Chelsea, £30m could see them win the league for christ's sake, why won't he bloomin' buy :/
 
Why would it matter? Everyone slags him off for just wanting money, why would he care about trophies? Going to Real and Newcastle were the two best decisions of his career.

He left Liverpool in the first place as he wanted trophies, he made the right move there, who wouldn't turn Madrid down? He obviously just went for money when signing for Newcastle...
 
It's so frustrating that Arsenal are 2, maybe 3 players away from competing with Man Utd and Chelsea, £30m could see them win the league for christ's sake, why won't he bloomin' buy :/

cos he's seen the financial problems they've dug themselves into, but more importantly, imo, he hasn't seen any players he thinks will improve the team that he can get for a reasonable amount.

i think part of that has to do with the departure of dein, they seemed to have a good friendship , and good working relationship.

wenger isnt afraid to spend money as hes done it in the past , more recently look at the prices he paid for walcott and ramsey, i just don't think he will put up with being ripped off.
 
Why would it matter? Everyone slags him off for just wanting money, why would he care about trophies? Going to Real and Newcastle were the two best decisions of his career.

It was a big mistake by newcastle. They paid an large amount of money when in reality no one else was going to. There where no other takers and they still paid vast amounts of money.

I don't know why madrid didn't play him more often, I always found it funny he left Liverpool for honours and ended up warming the bench while his old team mates won the champions league.

Owens biggest mistake was allowing the club to run him into the ground at such a young age. Too much football too young for someone so weak.
 
It was a big mistake by newcastle. They paid an large amount of money when in reality no one else was going to. There where no other takers and they still paid vast amounts of money.

Liverpool made a bid, it was rejected. Real Madrid has no reason to sell. Newcastle bid enough to prise him from Madrid.

Newcastle have loads of live games on TV (6 in a row earlier on in the season) partly because of Owen. Attracted other internationals (Coloccini etc.) no doubt down to the club having other players with Owen's calibre. Not to mention Owen's goals kept us up last season.

Oh, nearly forgot, we had a years worth of Owen's wages paid by the FA (may have been FIFA) after the World Cup injury. And add this to the fact that we reduced the wage bill considerably when Shearer retired, now Owen doesn't seem like such a waste of money.
 
cos he's seen the financial problems they've dug themselves into, but more importantly, imo, he hasn't seen any players he thinks will improve the team that he can get for a reasonable amount.

i think part of that has to do with the departure of dein, they seemed to have a good friendship , and good working relationship.

wenger isnt afraid to spend money as hes done it in the past , more recently look at the prices he paid for walcott and ramsey, i just don't think he will put up with being ripped off.

there is no financial problem at all. We make MORE profit AFTER paying the interest on the loans than we did before. Once the loan is paid back we'll be making the more profit aswell as the extra profit not paying back loans. We are FAR better off financially than we were before. We sell out every game easily and because of the size/quality of the venue and the much larger conference centre type stuff our non match day income has been significantly increased. For instance X-factor(as much as it shamed me) was filmed at the Emirates, which wouldn't have happened previously at HIghbury, the Brazil vs Argentina game, which I went to and enjoyed thoroughly, would NEVER have been held at Highbury, which was an extra 60k tickets worth of income that we otherwise would not have made.


As for not finding the right players, there is far better defensive midfielders than we have now available. He'd been tracking KOmpany for years and years, and decided against him, 5mil, I'm not sure how good he is, but he's versatile, pretty cheap, FAR better than denilson and song at centreback or def midfield and can play both and would clearly have helped us this year.

Also, for non starters frankly Ramsey and Theo were quite expensive. We have to buy a defensive midfielder, theres no question. But it was plainly obvious in preseason and up till the transfer deadline and he still didn't get anyone up till then. I understand that you don't want to spend huge on someone that might end up average at best. But spending 5 mil on someone like Kompany would have been very well spent.

I pray to god he buys SOMEONE for the position. But the longer he leaves it the more we're going to get screwed on whoever we buy as people know we're utterly desperate. The other worrying thing is, we haven't had a backup or reserve defensive midfield for a while either, we've got no one at really any level at the club suited to the role at all. He hasn't bought in any youth players for a few years for our reserves, under 19's or any other level. He's just buying attacking central midfielders at every level and trying to force them into other roles.

He blooming said today he wants Wilshire to be the next Bergkamp central attacking just off the striker. So yet another very promising winger he's going to shoehorn into being attacking. Merida is a central player really for that role, and we're being linked all over with the Leeds kid who apparently plays the same position aswell. At some point you have to buy players built for the position you need.

It worried me we didn't replace any DM's, but worried me further he didn't get any free youth players for the future for the position, he just doesn't act like he remotely wants a DM anymore.
 
As we weren't going to pay anywhere near the £17m you paid for him.

What's that got to do with anything? You could have made a bid of £16m and it would have been rejected.

Not true. Real were looking to sell as they needed the money for Ramos.

They obviously weren't that desperate to sell, otherwise they would've accepted Liverpool's bid.
 
It's so frustrating that Arsenal are 2, maybe 3 players away from competing with Man Utd and Chelsea, £30m could see them win the league for christ's sake, why won't he bloomin' buy :/

i know

i hate the **** as you can guess but all the need is a good non juvenile CB & DM and possibly goalkeeper and they would be right up there challenging

That word is not tolerated in here.
 
What's that got to do with anything? You could have made a bid of £16m and it would have been rejected.

You mentioned Liverpool in response to danny's post about you making a mistake and there being no other takers :confused:

There were no other takers at anything close to £17m and a bid of £8-9m (which was all we were willing to pay) wouldn't have been as big a risk (which turned out to be a mistake) as paying £17m.

They obviously weren't that desperate to sell, otherwise they would've accepted Liverpool's bid.

:confused:

Why would have they taken any offer from us, regardless of how desperate they were, when there was a club offering twice as much?
 
You mentioned Liverpool in response to danny's post about you making a mistake and there being no other takers :confused:

There were no other takers at anything close to £17m and a bid of £8-9m (which was all we were willing to pay) wouldn't have been as big a risk (which turned out to be a mistake) as paying £17m.



:confused:

Why would have they taken any offer from us, regardless of how desperate they were, when there was a club offering twice as much?

My whole point was the fact that other clubs did want Owen and Real clearly weren't desperate to sell. You honestly think after Liverpool had an £8m bid (or whatever) Newcastle then said 'oh, we can pay more than that here's £17m'? Wouldn't it make more sense to bid £15m? Or even £10m?
 
My whole point was the fact that other clubs did want Owen and Real clearly weren't desperate to sell. You honestly think after Liverpool had an £8m bid (or whatever) Newcastle then said 'oh, we can pay more than that here's £17m'? Wouldn't it make more sense to bid £15m? Or even £10m?

Other clubs would have taken Owen but not for anything like what you paid. Buying Owen wasn't a mistake, buying him for £17m was.

Real clearly were looking to get rid of Owen because they needed the money to buy Ramos and he wasn't ever really wanted or needed by them. As for your bid; it smacked of desperation and you agreed terms with Real prior to any bid or talks between us and Real so wouldn't have known if were going to make an offer let alone for how much. Also it wouldn't be the only time you've paid way ott on a player; didn't Souness say on Sky the other year how he was told you could get Luque for a couple £m and how much did you pay in the end?

Benitez wasn't overly keen on bringing Owen back (wasn't bothered about him leaving either) and wasn't going to blow his budget on him. He hoped (pretty sure he admitted this too) Owen would refuse the move to Newcastle (which he tried by initially saying he wouldn't sign a permanent deal with you) and force Real's hand into doing a deal with us, as they needed the cash for Ramos. Fortunately (for us, not for you ;)) Owen's bottle went and desperation to return to England took over as he couldn't risk losing his England spot by sitting on the bench at Real and accepted the only offer on the table.
 
No thanks we have already bought one crock of a forward we do not need another. He will stay at newcastle for one reason, money.

He currently gets over 100k per week, newcastle have offered 80k with conditions on the number of games he plays.

Everton wouldn't offer him much over 45k.

£2 million is a bargain for a player of his calibre, but his wages are crippling for a player that won't play enough.

Saha offered to be on a pay as you play deal although he is on a full time contract, props for the offer Owen's wages will definately be a stumbling block I agree. Would love to see Heskey but I can see him going to Spurs or maybe Man City.
 
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