should i sell my 60gb PS3 now while the goings good?

Don't see why?nor does it like files bigger than 4GB.

Actually it loves files bigger than 4gig as long as they're in the right format. It's just that it doesn't support NTFS external harddrives so you need to transfer the file to its own harddrive over the network using either a media server or a HTTP server.
 
The PS3 needs to be sub 200.

Why does it?
It needs to be the same price as the 360 elite surely?

360 elite, £225
PS3 £279.

Combine that with the fact it does more than the 360, has sold more units at this point in its lifespan than the 360 did, why does it need to be any cheaper?
 
Thought i would reply to those statments as you are unaware of the PS3 feature set by the sound of things, possibly due to firmware updates over the last 6 months or so.

After just about nearly buying a PS3 for my Home cinema build I am fully aware of what the PS3 is capable of.And there is a plethora of file playback limitaions when streaming etc..

Stupid arguement that, does it mean that the 360 is a power hungry hot DVD player and a games console ?

Yes but the 360 is 120 quid not 300

I would say its far more ground breaking than the 360, in many ways the wii is also pretty groundbreaking in its use of motion controls, cant think off anything ground breaking with a 360

Again the the 360 does not cost 300

From firmware 2.5 it can play any video in the video section sequentionally.

Thats funny because the PS3 does not understand Video TS files.

So what you have to do is click a vob file play it then after that vob file plays you have to click the next in line to carry on watching the movie :p


The 4gb is not a limit of the PS3 but of fat32 HDD, you can copy bigger files over the network and save to the PS3 HDD. Not sure why you would rip a DVD to the HDD if you own that dvd? If you mean Vobs im unsure if it does but AVIs and other video is upscaled by the PS3

I want to access my HD content without the need to fumble for discs. I want to back up my collection of DVD's and Blurays and store them digitally on my harddrive and play them back.

Its pap
Your opinion

I'm allowed an opinion

As a games console its ok.

Again your opinion



But as anything else its hardly ground breaking.


I would say its far more ground breaking than the 360, in many ways the wii is also pretty groundbreaking in its use of motion controls, cant think off anything ground breaking with a 360

Look at the PS3 and tell me what so groundbreaking.

It doesn't even stream DTS audio only AC3, so to play and stream HD media to a PS3 you have to transcode it. :p
 
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download mkv2vob - it very quickly remuxes it to a vob file which can be played fine on PS3. You will need to find a way to get it onto your PS3 if it's over 4Gb. I use a dual layer disc to burn it onto and then copy onto the PS3 from the optical drive.

And I have to do this with 2000 of my DVD's? :eek::p


HTPC for me.

The age old arguemment that the PS3 does so much more is no longer viable.

Until I can have a PC with my 9TB of DVD's on and I can stream this content to the PS3 with DTS audio will I ever buy one.

The PS3 cannot do this its a glorified Mp3, photo player thats plays games for 300 quid.
 
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And I have to do this with 2000 of my DVD's? :eek::p


HTPC for me.

The age old arguemment that the PS3 does so much more is no longer viable.

Of course it's viable; the consoles before it had essentially nothing in terms of extra features. The PS3 is very well featured considering it's a games console. Were you this harsh on the PS2 because it couldn't play SACDs and whatnot?

The PS3 cannot do this its a glorified Mp3, photo player thats plays games for 300 quid.

You make the fact that it plays games sound like an afterthought. I'm not sure why you think a games console should be capable of doing everything that a dedicated media hub/HTPC can do. Evidently you're not interested in it for its gaming capabilities, so you're not really the sort of person the PS3 is aimed towards.
 
Of course it's viable; the consoles before it had essentially nothing in terms of extra features. The PS3 is very well featured considering it's a games console.
your looking at it as a games machine that plays media. easy's looking at it as a media machine that plays games. the 360 is arguably a better console and a standalone bluray player is arguably a better BD player than the ps3 (and it certainly does use a lot less juice which is quite important to some people).

if people had neither a bluray player or a games console and wanted one machine to do all, it doesnt get much better than the ps3. if they wanted the best solution for both and didnt mind two boxes, imo a 360 and a sony s350 is a better solution. either way, one or tweo boxes still wont do a lot of what easy is after. sadly there is no all in one solution to play everything except a htpc.
Were you this harsh on the PS2 because it couldn't play SACDs and whatnot?
if easy wants something the ps3 cant do then why cant he be? if it doesnt do what he's after he's hardly going to overlook it and buy one anyway lol.
You make the fact that it plays games sound like an afterthought. I'm not sure why you think a games console should be capable of doing everything that a dedicated media hub/HTPC can do. Evidently you're not interested in it for its gaming capabilities, so you're not really the sort of person the PS3 is aimed towards.
he doesnt and thats the point - he knows it doesnt.
 
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And I have to do this with 2000 of my DVD's? :eek::p
Wasn't actually replying to you as your being a bit of a **** truth be told. You seem to be slagging off the PS3 because it's not a high end media server... I could **** it off too because it wont wash my car for me or take the dog out :confused:
 
he was right though, his original post said that bluray playback used to be one of the key selling points and it was, but with sub £200 bluray players available now i dont think it is any longer. that is going to leave the ps3 in a poor position unless they can drop the price of it hard. This is my problem with the console as it stands - when i bought mine there was nothing else, my £425 ps3 was justified (if bloody expensive but thats the price we pay eh?) now its still the 2nd placed console and for twice the price of the 360. its extremely hard to justify buying one if you dont already have one imo
 
A mate of mine wants to buy my 60GB for £400, I'm still thinking about it. On one hand it's a lot of money and I could easily get another PS3, but I will never have my hands on a PS2-compatible one again. But then again, Sony is bringing out another slimmer PS2 but it won't have scaling or smoothing like the PS3 does for example. It's a trickier decision than I thought it would be!

so £150 for bluray and £150 for the console. roughly equivalent to a premium 360 say £150

hows it overpriced?

This argument is crap and you know it. You still have to spend £300+30 if you want to play on Resistance 2. You only have to spend £80 if you want to play on Halo 3.

The PS3 is overpriced to **** and back.
 
Compared to the Elite it isn't that much more but it all comes down to what you want. My mates have the XBOX and having done my research it seems it has better online play and that is what persuaded me to get the XBOX over the PS3. Online play is a big thing for me and it seems the XBOX is better in that department although you need to pay for it, £27 a year is not that much though. I was tempted by the blu ray playback of the PS3 but then again I've got a blu ray drive on my PC and I hardly ever use it as it is. When it is cheaper I might just get the PS3 because game wise both consoles are similar and there are no games on the PS3 that would warrant me buying it just for that so unless I can pick one up cheap there isn't much point in buying it. At the moment though the XBOX will keep me occupied :)

Some people around here get a bit feisty when someone criticises a console, sheesh it's just a games console....
 
your looking at it as a games machine that plays media. easy's looking at it as a media machine that plays games. the 360 is arguably a better console and a standalone bluray player is arguably a better BD player than the ps3 (and it certainly does use a lot less juice which is quite important to some people).

I fully appreciate that, but it's not very fair to base criticisms of the PS3 solely on its additional functions. By all means, those criticisms have some validity, but saying things like "its a glorified Mp3, photo player thats plays games" is foolish really, because that's not what it is at all. If gaming is a low priority for you, it should come as no surprise that a games console isn't as fully featured as dedicated media devices.

His argument is a bit like me saying that my car is rubbish for transporting pieces of furniture. Sure, it can be done to an extent, but if I wanted to transport wardrobes a lot, I'd buy a cheap van instead. I wouldn't sit on the Motors board criticising Vauxhall for making the car unable to carry wardrobes. :p
 
ultimately it is worth selling the ps3 because you can get a decent price for it..coz its worth smt.

the "plastic box" that is the 360 however...

Good marketing logic from MS. make the console a pile of crud not worth diddly squat but make the games good. So its never worth selling it. I mean £65 for 360s nowadays lol.. Does a 2nd hand 360 market even exist? :D .................oh wait..... ;)
 
His argument is a bit like me saying that my car is rubbish for transporting pieces of furniture. Sure, it can be done to an extent, but if I wanted to transport wardrobes a lot, I'd buy a cheap van instead. I wouldn't sit on the Motors board criticising Vauxhall for making the car unable to carry wardrobes. :p

So from a pure gaming stand point....what does the PS3 offer over the Xbox?

My arguement is that for 300 as a games console alone it offers no more than a 120 quid Xbox.

Online gaming is not as good on PS3 for a kick off.:p

People justify the pricing of the PS3 because "it does other stuff"

My arguement is its not worth the 300 quid price tag any more, and the other stuff it does, it doesn't do it well enough to warrant the price premium.
 
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