Non-Christians have no morals

yantorsen said:
You been watching Around the World in 80 Faiths?
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I find religion fascinating. I do watch "The geek" channels as my lady calls them although I must have missed the programme you mention. :p I try to gather as much information as I can about just about everything that I can and interests me. Science is my primary interest and I find religion is like the flip side to it. Thus my curiousity about it. I am very interested in ancient civilisations and so on. I have even taken the time read the oldest story ever written and while strange, was quite interesting all the same. I am meaning of the tales Gilgamesh of Uruk.
 
howiepoohs said:
I find religion fascinating. I do watch "The geek" channels as my lady calls them although I must have missed the programme you mention. :p I try to gather as much information as I can about just about everything that I can and interests me. Science is my primary interest and I find religion is like the flip side to it. Thus my curiousity about it. I am very interested in ancient civilisations and so on. I have even taken the time read the oldest story ever written and while strange, was quite interesting all the same. I am meaning of the tales Gilgamesh of Uruk.
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Sounds cool, I am also very interesting in ancient culture/religion etc. and modern psychology, and science.

You can watch the program I mentioned on iplayer it is very interesting, I think you'd enjoy it, there is three episodes atm, it is on every week though :)
 
yantorsen said:
Sounds cool, I am also very interesting in ancient culture/religion etc. and modern psychology, and science.

You can watch the program I mentioned on iplayer it is very interesting, I think you'd enjoy it, there is three episodes atm, it is on every week though :)
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Oh cool, I dont usually bother with iplayer as it nicks your bandwidth if you get the hi res ones, but shall look out for this.
 
In my experience the Higher class the person the lower the Moral code, It is possible that they don't display this lack of morality to there own class but to me & others like me they have No Moral code at all & they also lack basic manners.
Modern day church goers are just as bad with there Bs lies & blagging to fill the collection boxes or get donations & continue to secure there own future & wages.
Educated people are arrogant ***** who usually have the common sense of a Brick & as for Morality most of these so called Educated people would step on there own Mother to get the promotion they want.
I cannot say that I have met Anybody with as high Morals as me & I WAS a complete Scum bag, Go Figure :confused:
Where I got these Morals I now carry like a weight around my neck God only knows but I am Mighty Glad I am a Scumbag with Morals rather than a Well educated rich person who has no manners No morals & is an Ignorant ****.

I really cannot see anybody who reads this agreeing with me or even understanding where I am coming from but then unless you travel the road I have you wouldn't would you.
 
howiepoohs said:
I was under the impression that Christian's believe that some sort of "God" created the world in six days and made man in this so called omnipresent one's image.
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Some do; some don't. There's plenty of Old Earth Creationists out there, along with the Theistic Evolutionists and other variations on the general theme.
 
Septh said:
Discuss :)
My house mate just made a bold claim that non-Christians have no morals
The discussion started from this thread:
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17966588
In which I said its harsh to ask for Christians, who says they would be better than anyone else, and he said they have better morals like no swearing, no sex before marriage, and implied that non-Christians would be terrible for type of job...
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Marriage is nothing more than a piece of paper and a bit of jewellery. It is nothing and means nothing. No sex before marriage rules makes zero sense, as does anyone stating that their religion is better than any other, or that they for following a particular (or any) religion is better than someone following a different set of beliefs.

Your mate, to put it bluntly, is a ****.
 
Gilly said:
Marriage is nothing more than a piece of paper and a bit of jewellery. It is nothing and means nothing. No sex before marriage rules makes zero sense, as does anyone stating that their religion is better than any other, or that they for following a particular (or any) religion is better than someone following a different set of beliefs.

Your mate, to put it bluntly, is a ****.
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This also my thoughts on the whole thing :)
 
Oh dear I wouldn't hang out with people who had such a skewed retarded view on such things. I stopped being a friend with someone because he was so racist it was embarassing to be with him sometimes.
 
Septh said:
Like how the romans used to hunt Christians
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True.

till Constantine took the throne and converted the whole of the empire to Christianity
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Constantine didn't convert anyone; he converted to Christianity, and a lot of other people did too. However, Constantine still allowed paganism to co-exist alongside Christianity.

After Constantine's death, Julian the Apostate (a pagan emperor) attempted to revive paganism, but without success; Christianity was already far too popular. Julian also attempted to rebuilt the Jewish temple in order to falsify a prophecy about its destruction, but was forced to abandon the work after its foundations were destroyed by a natural disaster.

Christianity itself did not become the official religion of the Roman Empire until the reign of Emperor Theodosius (a Christian emperor).

and his relgious aid wrote the new testament, and picked and choose which things to include and not include.
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False. The New Testament was already written by the 4th Century AD (Constantine's era) but there was still no official agreement on which books were to be included in the canon.

Various bishops and churchmen had compiled their own list of New Testament books (most notably Bishop Athanasius) but this was done independent of other authorities. Different lists were agreed at local level by church councils, resulting in considerable diversity between the Eastern and Western branches of the church.

Constantine presided over the Council of Nicaea, an ecumenical council which attempted to address the nature and status of Jesus Christ, and laid the foundations of the official doctrine of the Trinity by declaring that Jesus himself is God incarnate.

The council itself had been convened in response to the doctrine of Arianism, which taught that Jesus had pre-existed as an immortal supernatural being, but was not actually God.
 
ChrisJSY said:
Oh dear I wouldn't hang out with people who had such a skewed retarded view on such things. I stopped being a friend with someone because he was so racist it was embarassing to be with him sometimes.
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Interestingly hes pretty racist too, he claims hes not tho as he has a black friend at home called "black carl" :rolleyes:

Please edit this out mod's if it oversteps the mark :)
 
Evangelion said:
True.



Constantine didn't convert anyone; he converted to Christianity, and a lot of other people did too. However, Constantine still allowed paganism to co-exist alongside Christianity.

After Constantine's death, Julian the Apostate (a pagan emperor) attempted to revive paganism, but without success; Christianity was already far too popular. Julian also attempted to rebuilt the Jewish temple in order to falsify a prophecy about its destruction, but was forced to abandon the work after its foundations were destroyed by a natural disaster.

Christianity itself did not become the official religion of the Roman Empire until the reign of Emperor Theodosius (a Christian emperor).



False. The New Testament was already written by the 4th Century AD (Constantine's era) but there was still no official agreement on which books were to be included in the canon.

Various bishops and churchmen had compiled their own list of New Testament books (most notably Bishop Athanasius) but this was done independent of other authorities. Different lists were agreed at local level by church councils, resulting in considerable diversity between the Eastern and Western branches of the church.

Constantine presided over the Council of Nicaea, an ecumenical council which attempted to address the nature and status of Jesus Christ, and laid the foundations of the official doctrine of the Trinity by declaring that Jesus himself is God incarnate.

The council itself had been convened in response to the doctrine of Arianism, which taught that Jesus had pre-existed as an immortal supernatural being, but was not actually God.
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The show I've watched made it out a bit different, but I meant by pick and choose, he picked from all the existing texts what to include, not that he wrote the whole thing, which is what I think your getting at :)
 
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