Lorry Drivers

[fozzy]

Hi my names QBitOscillation, I've only been banned four times before.

Not just me who thinks returnee troll every time he posts then.

I drive for a living but thankfully I now drive on nights. Unfortunately our transport network does have an amount of plebs driving on it, this includes HGV drivers. There are bad drivers who drive cars, vans, 7.5T trucks, I could go on. I could make a post everyday on here about the **** end car drivers I encounter every single night of my working week, this does not mean that every single car driver is a **** end. Quite the opposite, there are many excellent drivers on our roads, but the minority give the majority a bad name. Do you see what I'm getting at?

Personally I always back off if another artic is wanting pass, the sooner he's past the sooner the middle lane is freed up.

 

[Memphis]

Most of em are complete ****wits.

You do get some sound ones though. Only now and then.

I like to blast past them at 14* mph inches from them in the adjacent lane.

That really ****s them off.

And now it becomes clear. I figured you were a ****, and it would appear I was right. Your stay here will be short.

 

[Overlag]

dont drive on m1. problem solved

 

[wassap]

I do far too many miles really, but a consequence of this is that you tend to get a fairer view of road user, lorries on the whole are driven very well, 9 times out of 10 they have pull and overtake, cos some twit car driver is in the inside lane doing 45mph

I dont mind white van man either, they generally get on with things, car drivers cause more congestion the motorways, rubberneckers, lane hoggers and self righteous overtakers (wont exceed 70 in the outside lane) are far more detrimental to the traffic flow.

In addition transit pickup drivers and 7.5 tonne drivers are a pain in the behind they seem to be intent on getting into the outside lane and forgetting to move over, and lets not start about the renegade foreign lorry drivers. Zirax is right tho, most of the time if you are aware of whats going on around you, you can make good progress.

 

[scorza]

The A3 through Guildford is a dual carriageway with a 50mph limit before going into a de-restricted zone. I once saw one lorry overtake another in the 50mph part, then they both accelerated to 60mph in the de-restricted part. The overtaking lorry couldn't complete the manouevre and neither of them were inclined to lift off and gtf out of the way.

The overtaking lorry did get a bit mad with the other one though, blasting his horn and gave him the finger when he finally did overtake

 

[Ste]

There's a section of the M42 north that has a slight incline - they've stopped lorries from using the outside line during peak times for a couple of miles, which seems quite sensible as the road gets very busy and is only 2 lanes. As for banning them using the outside lanes altogether it's completely unenforcable - you see some heavily laiden artics struggling to do 50 - you can't stop faster trucks from overtaking those, so where do you draw the line?

I also do a 60 mile round trip commute and agree that on the whole most lorry drivers are pretty good. Still get scared ****less overtaking left hand drive ones though, after all the horrible stories you hear - tend to drop a couple of gears and hoon it past

 

[username]

I drive HGV for a living and think banning them all tot he inside lane is a great Idea. Mainly as I get paid an hourly rate and anything to earn a little more would be great. I have no objection to driving from Leeds to London at 40mph because that is as fast as the guy in the mobile crane can do. Fine I'll queue up behind him no problem. Just as long as your prepared to pay 20% more for every single thing you have in your house, office, car, wardrobe + the stuff it's all made from bricks, concrete etc.

An easier way to reduce congestion is to remove the speed limit for lorries or increase it so that all motorway traffic does the same speed. That way the guys that can only do 52mph up a hill can struggle along and us lighter loaded trucks can whizz past and stay out of your way.

People are fine to get a little annoyed by trucks every now and then but just remember that without trucks this country would be on it's knees within about 36 hours if not less.

 

[loltim]

The problem isn't lorry drivers, it's stupid and ignorant motorists who don't understand how difficult driving a hgv is. I always give them more respect because they are a lot bigger than me!

Yep.

I drive HGV for a living and think banning them all tot he inside lane is a great Idea. Mainly as I get paid an hourly rate and anything to earn a little more would be great. I have no objection to driving from Leeds to London at 40mph because that is as fast as the guy in the mobile crane can do. Fine I'll queue up behind him no problem. Just as long as your prepared to pay 20% more for every single thing you have in your house, office, car, wardrobe + the stuff it's all made from bricks, concrete etc.

An easier way to reduce congestion is to remove the speed limit for lorries or increase it so that all motorway traffic does the same speed. That way the guys that can only do 52mph up a hill can struggle along and us lighter loaded trucks can whizz past and stay out of your way.

People are fine to get a little annoyed by trucks every now and then but just remember that without trucks this country would be on it's knees within about 36 hours if not less.

Didn't you know? Food magics itself onto the shelves at Tesco, atleast according to lorry haters..

 

[deko]

The A3 through Guildford is a dual carriageway with a 50mph limit before going into a de-restricted zone. I once saw one lorry overtake another in the 50mph part, then they both accelerated to 60mph in the de-restricted part. The overtaking lorry couldn't complete the manouevre and neither of them were inclined to lift off and gtf out of the way.

The overtaking lorry did get a bit mad with the other one though, blasting his horn and gave him the finger when he finally did overtake

bloody hell, they would have a hard time getting to 60.

 

[Lum]

If you're having to do 65 instead of 75, how much time are you losing? Hardly any time at all! What are you whinging about?

While I agree with the sentiment of your post, I really hate this argument which is also used by middle lane morons defending their behaviour.

Per incident you're probably only losing a few minutes but multiply it by the number of incidents on a long distance trip and you're soon talking a couple of hours. If you're on a tacho then this could be the difference between getting home that day or being forced to sleep over a mile or so from home.

Fortunately I'm not on a tacho but it can still mean the difference between still being alert and able to drive safely at the end of the drive or not, and since my employer wont pay for hotels that are close to home I don't even have the option of sleeping over, and taking a nap in the services only does so much.

 

[Peerzy]

The A3 through Guildford is a dual carriageway with a 50mph limit before going into a de-restricted zone. I once saw one lorry overtake another in the 50mph part, then they both accelerated to 60mph in the de-restricted part. The overtaking lorry couldn't complete the manouevre and neither of them were inclined to lift off and gtf out of the way.

The overtaking lorry did get a bit mad with the other one though, blasting his horn and gave him the finger when he finally did overtake

I go through that bit of the A3 to get to Surrey uni every day and around rush hour the whole 50mph section goes to a standstill because the slip roads are about 5 metres long. It's so annoying.

I agree overtaking Lorries is annoying but you just live with it. It's one of the reasons I try and do my long distance driving at night.

 

[Scania]

Driving down the M1 today, WTF is up with lorry drivers, they move into the middle lane cos they have a 2mph advantage over the other stupid ******* lorry driver in front which takes them 2 miles to pass forcing every other numpty into the outside lane and thus slowing down the flow of traffic.

At one point where its 4 lanes there were lorries in the inside, 2nd and third lane, what a load of ***** all doing around 60mph

I for one think that lorry drivers should be banned from any lane except the inside - Discuss

WTF is up with car drivers that can't grasp that the outside lane is totally off limits to HGV's on Motorways and therefore is their own overtaking lane? Shut up and use the outside lane to get past and let us get on with keeping this country moving please.

It does not take 2 miles for an HGV or any other vehicle to overtake with a 2MPH speed advantage. And HGV's are restricted to 52 - 56MPH, 60 is merely the legal Maximum, few can attain this speed without a hill.

/Begin discussion.

You have no idea what you're talking about and you hold the POV of someone who has little knowledge or experience of the transport network.

/End dicussion.

Ah, so you "teach them a lesson", eh?
Well done. A very responsible and mature attitude for a driver to have.

1. You're an idiot if you actually believe what you say in this post.
2. Everything that can go by rail, already does. The rail network is basic to say the least. At least try and research your subject before spouting such drivel.

I drive HGV for a living and think banning them all tot he inside lane is a great Idea. Mainly as I get paid an hourly rate and anything to earn a little more would be great. I have no objection to driving from Leeds to London at 40mph because that is as fast as the guy in the mobile crane can do. Fine I'll queue up behind him no problem. Just as long as your prepared to pay 20% more for every single thing you have in your house, office, car, wardrobe + the stuff it's all made from bricks, concrete etc.

An easier way to reduce congestion is to remove the speed limit for lorries or increase it so that all motorway traffic does the same speed. That way the guys that can only do 52mph up a hill can struggle along and us lighter loaded trucks can whizz past and stay out of your way.

People are fine to get a little annoyed by trucks every now and then but just remember that without trucks this country would be on it's knees within about 36 hours if not less.

I personally think that rather than race each other, the inside lorry should lift off slightly to allow the overtake to happen quicker.

Does my head in on the A34 (dual carriageway all the way).

Even worse when they try it up hill and then have to give up.

Its not a race, its called chasing impossible delivery schedules and delivery "windows" that don't allow for delays.

Most of em are complete ****wits.

You do get some sound ones though. Only now and then.

I like to blast past them at 14* mph inches from them in the adjacent lane.

That really ****s them off.

I'm the kind of ****wit that laughs my socks off at the ****wit who trys your excellent idea only to find the wake from the rig upsets the balance & handling of their car, usually ending up with said ****wit cliping the HGV and at best ending up slightly mangled at the side of the road and at worse, dead.

Far from ****ing us off, you have no idea how much the antics of cretins such as yourself actually brighten up our day, the very logic that you think a car can in any way intimidate something as big as a truck shows clearly how incredibly clueless you are.

Oh do give over. Yes I am fully aware that they are restricted to 56 and that its affected by the load. However I do know that they will sit there in the outside lane deliberately if you are an arse to them. Yes I have seen them lift off when they pull out for that reason.

The limited speed of 56MPH has little to do with the load, I'm not sure what you mean there mate - For fear of stating the bleedin' obvious, the answer is not being an arse around truckers! although often people percieve the trucker to be deliberately sitting in the outside lane, often its more that the guy they are overtaking has a bit more power and starts to creep back as they both meet a hill. The trucker being overtaken should lift off a tad, it works for me.

The problem isn't lorry drivers, it's stupid and ignorant motorists who don't understand how difficult driving a hgv is. I always give them more respect because they are a lot bigger than me!

Sincerely, Thanks

Your very much in a minority alas.

 

[utajoker]

i have way more respect for truckers since learning to drive a truck myself and now i know how difficult a job it can be.

when i was taught i was told to ease off a bit when another truck is overtaking to get them past as quick as possible to not hold up anything.

when im in my car i just use the 3rd lane to overtake them, no problems.

 

[bcjames]

Most of the lorry drivers I have encountered have been brilliant really. Only occasionally would I get caught up in a snail race, normally if they are going for it they can get past okay. The problem seems to come after the lorry has moved back in, and the fast cars are mixed with the slow cars all in the outside lane. That's what seems to make it go on forever.

I always flash them back in if they overtake me in the 850cc mini, or if im in big mini they often flash me back over.

Are all lorries limited to 56? I see lots with 56 on, a couple with 60, and saw a trailer the other day with 'may be limited to 56'. Im not sure how accurate my speedos are so can't tell for sure.

 

[uber soldat]

Most truckers are fine but i have come across some as described by the OP and it is very annoying if it happens, not so much on motorways but on dual carrigeways, if it happens on a dual carriageway the truck in question deserves to be flashed for being a moron.

 

[Zirax]

The limited speed of 56MPH has little to do with the load, I'm not sure what you mean there mate - For fear of stating the bleedin' obvious, the answer is not being an arse around truckers! although often people percieve the trucker to be deliberately sitting in the outside lane, often its more that the guy they are overtaking has a bit more power and starts to creep back as they both meet a hill. The trucker being overtaken should lift off a tad, it works for me.

Yep you are on the same lines as me, thats what I was getting at. I'll make my posts more clear in the future.

 

[James_N]

My dad is a lorry driver and has been since i was like 2! Ive been with him all round europe, and its clear 99% of car drivers have no idea what so ever of the problems HGV drivers face.

I was going to type a long post, but then sae R420LA6X2/4MNA covered it for me

 

[Booner!]

I really don't agree with lorries overtaking on the A34 though. They do this for literally miles.....just drove home and had to put up with it and it's very frustrating. A lorry also saw the opportunity to move into my lane and just pulled across, then indicated....leaving me to break sharply down to 55mph and then have to accelerate past him. So did many cars behind me

 

[QBitOscillation]

The trucker being overtaken should lift off a tad, it works for me

A) so why doesn't it work for EVERY SINGLE other truck "driver" out there?

I'm the kind of ****wit that laughs my socks off at the ****wit who trys your excellent idea only to find the wake from the rig upsets the balance & handling of their car, usually ending up with said ****wit cliping the HGV and at best ending up slightly mangled at the side of the road and at worse, dead.

Far from ****ing us off, you have no idea how much the antics of cretins such as yourself actually brighten up our day, the very logic that you think a car can in any way intimidate something as big as a truck shows clearly how incredibly clueless you are.

B) Ive seen two ****wits overtaking two other ****wits at the same time, so you have a 2 x 2 flipping race.
On that occaision it took over 6 minutes for all the traffic to clear, and only then was I able to get up to cruising speed.
Whenever I see this ridiculous lorry ballet happen, I wind the passenger window down or open the glass roof and make masterbation signs at the drives to the get message accross.

Ive never experienced any issues with blasting past and feeling the "wake" as it were, even at 1.72 leptons.

I must say driving a truck is not really easy, but, why the **** do they ALWAYS block the road.

In all my years of driving I have never seen the overtakee lift off to let the other by.

Its always a slow, swerving ballet beteen them for miles.

Im not suprised that the majority of accidents on motorways have lorries involved.

 

[Nebzor]

Just a question, are you being prevented from doing your 14*mph or your 70mph?