Lad breaks into a house and is killed...

Exactly, the legal system pampers too much to the criminals rights and not those of the victim! No wonder the chavs/uneducated masses of this country behave the way they do, they have no respect for anything or anyone, and no reason to fear the law!
 
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Chimerical said:
Not really. Only difference is that one's a kid. You don't know a thing about him yet are completely happy to jump to conclusions.

Neither did Jade get dealt the 'media card' as you like to call it.

However, that's missing the point. Its just interesting how you try to justify one and possibly treat the other incident differently (I'm not saying you specifically condemn the Goody jokes or anything).
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What I am doing is differentiating the two because I can laugh at them both for the merits they are deemed laughable at. Both I find humorous. What that doesn't mean though is I find either of them in their entirety a "funny" situation to be in. I would neither want to be stabbed or get cancer, However I could STILL laugh (at myself if I had to) over jokes about either situation.


Oh and I am not jumping to conclusions at all, I said "in all likelihood" which means I looked at the evidence set before me and made my post relevant to that. It doesn't mean I am out and out saying he is the harbinger of death
 
Rabtech said:
More than likely, what would you do in the occupiers situation, use harsh language? - I know I wouldn't either...
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You have no idea what the occupiers situation was..How can you possibly claim to know what you would do?

There are zero details about what actually happened in the house...Zero..
 
When you wake up, the first 40 seconds are worse than having drunk 15 pints so forgive me if i stab someone i do not recognise who is standing at the end of my bed with my gold running through his fingers. :)
 
Energize said:
What if the property is life? Eg a dog? I imagine most people would kill to protect their dog.
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You are allowed to use self-defence for yourself and in limited circumstances for other people. I don't believe that pets come into that category but depending on the judge you'd have a very good chance of pleading mitigating circumstances.

Note though that we're not actually talking about that in the instant case, there doesn't appear to be any suggestion that Mr Juett was stabbed by someone in defence of life, quite the contrary if it is being treated as a murder presently. However without anything in the way of hard facts this is merely conjecture and diverting but ultimately useless.

Le_Petit_Lapin said:
Shame tbh. They sorted out criminals good and proper back then.
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I'm not sure how to break this to you but the medieval justice system left rather a lot to be desired in terms of actually finding criminals and appropriately dealing with them. That period even took in some of the start of witch hunts, strangely apposite considering how little we seem to have progressed judging by some reactions on here.
 
One more dead chav = one less chav around to burgle people, wish we could wipe out the rest of them now
 
The comments on Facebook are all very amusing and I agree that he was probably 'chav scum' but to be stabbed to death for burglary was not a fitting punishment. Obviously I don't know the full facts and Tyler might have been armed but it does seem like a waste. Why the home owner did not just knock him out with a hook/roundhouse/elbow etc is my question. If someone broke into my house unless I could see they were armed I'd fancy my chances more in hand to hand combat at least that way its much more likely that no one is senselessly killed. Its not even like it would be hard to disarm a 17 year old chav anyway....
 
MG42Maniac said:
The comments on Facebook are all very amusing and I agree that he was probably 'chav scum' but to be stabbed to death for burglary was not a fitting punishment. Obviously I don't know the full facts and Tyler might have been armed but it does seem like a waste. Why the home owner did not just knock him out with a hook/roundhouse/elbow etc is my question. If someone broke into my house unless I could see they were armed I'd fancy my chances more in hand to hand combat at least that way its much more likely that no one is senselessly killed. Its not even like it would be hard to disarm a 17 year old chav anyway....
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It's not about what's an appropriate punishment, it's about the home owner defending himself, his family and his home. Tbh I find the comments on facebook very distasteful, we shouldn't lose sight of the fact that a young man has lost his life, but neither is it appropriate to celebrate that young man's crimes the way the facebook group originally intended to do.
 
The facebook page is gold, all it took for an hour or so of entertainment was the death of some scum sucking criminal. Win.

Now where did I put that winking smiley? Ah forget it, it's not needed.
 
Facebook Group said:
Am I missing something or did I not get the memo where the English language was dropped from the Nottingham schooling system? Bunch of ******* inbred, illiterate ***** ********.

Anyhow, the **** got what he deserved. Just a shame it wasn't slower and a lot more ******* painful.
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this had me in stitches, the FB group is hilarious and his mum is posting on it lol
 
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Balddog said:
You have no idea what the occupiers situation was..How can you possibly claim to know what you would do?

There are zero details about what actually happened in the house...Zero..
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Whilst I know the details are scarce, you break into my house you'll know about it. What would YOU do in a situation where someone broke in? Sit down and have a coffee with them?

We'll find out more in due course anyway I'm sure.
 
Richard Mongleur said:
Kirsty, I would be only to happy to gas your social class (chavs) and make the world a better place.
Enjoy your prospects of screwing a burger flipper from Burger King.
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Kirsty Dexter said:
and its "guess" not gas
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Sal Barba said:
No kristy he meant to say gas. think about it
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lollage

I still can't help laughing at that picture... :|
 
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it is unfortunate but in life its quite simple. every decision has a result and he chose the life of crime and paid the price.

good decision = good result
bad decision = bad result

simple really. i wish i could say i wouldn't do it but faced with the same situation i'd do whatever i had to, to defend me and my belongings. if that means someone dying - rather him than me.
 
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