Pirate bay court case

because they do not host any illegal files themselves ..

all they do is have a sharing system that allows others to share files

what others choose to share is up to the indiviuals and not the piratebay owners

so to get a prison sentence, imo, is over the top and very harsh
SO what you are saying is that the site itself is not illegal, so what did they get a fine and jail time for?
 
I want to know how they expect these guys to cough up £2.5m ? 3 of the 4 are just normal people with normal jobs.
 
I want to know how they expect these guys to cough up £2.5m ? 3 of the 4 are just normal people with normal jobs.

Sure they could just get that big old right wing fascist Carl to bail them out.

That or in a site of 3.5 million users, if 10% donate 10 euro, the fine is paid.
 
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SO what you are saying is that the site itself is not illegal, so what did they get a fine and jail time for?

that is what i would have thought, and that is why i am shocked.

they didnt supply any illegal material, they just developed a sharing system.

they are just making examples of them because the industry has no control over it and needs to make wild stabs where ever it can

IF the site goes down, lots others will take its place...
 
because they do not host any illegal files themselves ..

all they do is have a sharing system that allows others to share files

what others choose to share is up to the indiviuals and not the piratebay owners

so to get a prison sentence, imo, is over the top and very harsh

I'm sure this has been answered before but the name pirate bay surely suggests that they want pirate data on it.
 
because they do not host any illegal files themselves ..

all they do is have a sharing system that allows others to share files

what others choose to share is up to the indiviuals and not the piratebay owners

so to get a prison sentence, imo, is over the top and very harsh

They provide a platform where users can share illegal files. By taking this platform out it makes it trickier for user to get these files (and de-incentivises others to start up due to not wanting jail time/a fine).

Cutting out the platform which users can share illegal files seems like a fairly sensible measure to minimise illegal file transfer.
 
Looks like the collective wisdom of OcUK failed to predict the outcome of this one!

Just to take the thread on a different tangent, why not go after he likes of limewire, soulseek as they provide a means to access copyrighted material and actually host the users that provide it.

Or even major ISP's like virgin media for not regulating what is posted on their newsgroups, i.e binary files, you can get pretty much anything from there at maximum download speeds. More to the point, the files are actually stored on the newsgroup servers iirc.

I'm not going to defend anybody for piracy, but there's nothing anybody will be able to do ever, they will always find a way round it.

Indeed - I don't understand why the ISP don't (or aren't forced to) just block the torrent sites and suspect newsgroups. They manage to block some black listed sites (child porn for example) so why not torrent sites? It's not hard to compile and maintain a list of the the main sources of torrents.
 
For that type of income the site would have to be a collage of adverts, not that same damn mobile software.

It would be interesting to see just how much money could be raised if they put out a general appeal?
 
I think that rough estimates off advertisement revenue is millions so I doubt the fine is the problem.

Incorrect, and this was brought up in the trial. the actual revenue from advertising and other sources not including donations was less than 96,000 euro, the vast majority of which was poured straight back into servers and hosting.
 
Are shops that sell guns and knives responsible for murder when one of their customers kills someone. Are BASF and Memorex guilty of manufacturing products which assisted all the copying that went on before downloading?
 
Are shops that sell guns and knives responsible for murder when one of their customers kills someone. Are BASF and Memorex guilty of manufacturing products which assisted all the copying that went on before downloading?

exactly.
 
Looks like the collective wisdom of OcUK failed to predict the outcome of this one!



Indeed - I don't understand why the ISP don't (or aren't forced to) just block the torrent sites and suspect newsgroups. They manage to block some black listed sites (child porn for example) so why not torrent sites? It's not hard to compile and maintain a list of the the main sources of torrents.

Because torrenting is 100% legal. It's as simple as that.
 
Are shops that sell guns and knives responsible for murder when one of their customers kills someone. Are BASF and Memorex guilty of manufacturing products which assisted all the copying that went on before downloading?
How about if Memorex provided a supply network for its customers to distribute copies of copyrighted material?
 
Its all stupid and pointless. The music and film industry patted themselves on the back when they shut down kazaa and something new popped up. Even if PB disappears (doubtful) the nature of the internet is that something new will take its place. Theyre just banging their heads against a brick wall.
 
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