Been ID for buying Alcohol at 26

Gog said:
Sorry but they aren't.* If asked they must tell the truth otherwise it is entrapment.

* Unless policy has changed, that was certainly the case when I did some work for trading standards some years back. I still can't see a defence losing if it can be verified that age was requested. I don't believe it is law to ask for ID, just policy.

Which incidentally I don't agree with. I don't drive, have no intention of doing so, refuse to carry a passport around, or "buy" an ID card. If an establishment refuses to serve me (not that there's much chance of that in Croydon :p) I will simply go elsewhere. I'm 33 and look it and have never actually been asked for ID in my life anyway.
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The law was changed a couple of years back so that the test purchase could be more realistic.
 
Interesting. It seems it is up to the individual councils. The LACORS guidance does allow false ages to be given in exceptional circumstances though.

LACORS Guide to Test Purchasing said:
The test purchase will, as far as possible, be made in the same manner as a member of the public would seek to make a purchase, however there are some particular considerations that must be applied to test purchasing operations and thus the young person must be trained prior to any operation taking place:

a) They must be told as far as is reasonably possible exactly what to say and what not to say;
b) For routine test purchase operations, the young person must be told to answer any questions that the seller may ask about their age truthfully;
c) In exceptional circumstances, the Local Authority may consider whether it is appropriate to undertake test purchase operations where the young person is instructed not to answer truthfully any questions relating to their age posed by the seller.

This may be considered in cases where the Local Authority has credible evidence for example from Police, Community Safety Wardens, CCTV, covert surveillance or other credible and identifiable source, that a specific premises is selling age restricted products to young persons that are underage AND that the action of the seller is always to ask the young person their age. Given that test purchasers will answer truthfully, the seller avoids making a sale whereas, had the young person not answered truthfully a different outcome may have ensued.

In such exceptional circumstances, where it is clear that illegal sales are taking place and that the seller is not taking all reasonable steps to avoid the commission of the offence , the Local Authority may determine that this course of action is appropriate in order to prove breaches of the legislation and ultimately to gain compliance with the legislation.

If a Local Authority determines that alternative action is required for a particular premise, then a risk assessment must be carried out and the reasons for the decision must be documented;
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http://www.lacors.gov.uk/lacors/upload/13742.pdf

I know there have been several cases where cases have been dismissed because Judges have not been able to correctly identify the age a person, so it seems a risky tactic. Not that ACPO would agree though.
 
One day it will come to a point where a 40 year old will be badgering a 70 year old to go into the shop and buy some alchohol for them. :)
 
oldbag said:
One day it will come to a point where a 40 year old will be badgering a 70 year old to go into the shop and buy some alchohol for them. :)
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LOl did'nt some retard ID a 80 year old once in morrisons? sure that was on the news.
 
HAz said:
LOl did'nt some retard ID a 80 year old once in morrisons? sure that was on the news.
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WHY ARE SOME PEOPLE MISSING THE POINT?

It isn't Morrisons and it isn't the retard.
They have to do this because of the 3 strikes and out rule and Morrisons is the only superstore that hasn't had any of it's stores have their alcohol license taken away.
The 80 year old could have been a stooge and reported back that he hadn't been asked for ID.
Why is it that 50 year olds don't mind being asked but 25 year olds get upset by it?
 
dmpoole said:
WHY ARE SOME PEOPLE MISSING THE POINT?

It isn't Morrisons and it isn't the retard.
They have to do this because of the 3 strikes and out rule and Morrisons is the only superstore that hasn't had any of it's stores have their alcohol license taken away.
The 80 year old could have been a stooge and reported back that he hadn't been asked for ID.
Why is it that 50 year olds don't mind being asked but 25 year olds get upset by it?
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Come on 80!! thats just ridiculous lol.

HAha whats he gunna show as proof? his pension book HAHHAH
 
malfunkshun said:
Same, though I am 35 and look at least that old. I left the £300 worth of shopping and walked out :mad:
I for one never carry ID, even when driving, it isn't legally required and it's a security issue.
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Don't worry, there are plenty of customers willing to show ID when asked. Your £300 won't be missed.
 
Because it implies, unless I bought a telly or something, that there was a great deal to put back. But just to be sure, I walked out and left 3 trolleys worth of goods to be returned to stock, after it had all been put through the till. It was, in my opinion, a ridiculous request so I did the only thing I could do, take my business elsewhere.
 
3 trolleys of shopping just abandoned for being I.D?

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It would seem my quote from post 163 is applicable here:

It's sad and pathetic and makes you look like a complete drama queen who needs to get some perspective in life and find some real things to moan about.
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I have worked at a number of jobs that needed me to beware of under 18s. Though this might seem fairly obvious to some, my message in regards to the offended people at 18,25,30,40+ that are being asked for ID is the following: get yourselves a job that puts you on the other side of the counter, having to abide by the rules and regulations laid by the authorities, and you WILL fully understand it next time if you get ID-ed, even if you are way over 18. I have seen a few cases of colleagues' lifes turning chaotic through dealing with the police and court for a while,just because of brief moments of carelessness on that matter. Its definitely not a joke!

Things are even messier at my current job in a betting shop where the youngster doesnt even need to be served in order to get you to trouble. He/she could just hang around in the premises(even if just standing by the door, not participating in any type of gambling activities) in order to get us into trouble. In fact, even the presence of babies is now forbidden(which was a major pain at the Grand national when it comes to parents walking in with children).

For some reason, the government is more and more assuming that it needs to go further in doing duties that originally belong to the parents of children and things will only get tougher in terms of rules(and corresponding fines) so anybody having a go at the employee that does his/her job is precisely turning this into a case of shooting the messenger.
 
starfighter said:
The best thing to do if you don't like it is to just leave all your shopping on their till and walk out while advising them you will be taking your business elsewhere.
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Like anyone who works in the shop gives a damn?

Whenever someone does it to me it goes something like this:
"I'll take my business elsewhere"
"Like I care I don't even shop here"

I honestly don't give a damn about customers, i work in a supermarket, I don't get paid enough to care about customers, least of all rude bigheaded customers.
Customer service? Ha ha, no, you're in tescos, go to a real shop not a cheap bulk supplier if you want someone freindly and helpful.
What are people going to do, complain to a manager who will just discard the complaint anyway.

As the customer, you no longer matter in a large retail environment, so stuff like that does not work.
 
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