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I got a leaflet through my door when i was home once.
I grabbed it, screwed it up, threw it at the bloke posting them and preceded to have a go at him "get the **** out of my neighbourhood you racist **** and don't ever come round here again!!" kind of thing
My nan who lives 2 doors away was also in at the time, she didn't look best pleased at the way i'd handled the situation even though she's against it as well
Theres also a massive UKIP poster up on my bus route, every time i go past it i feel like going with some spray paint to write "No more nazis, get out" or something.
Of course you did
I came across way too strong, but i think tthey just need to tighten up the rules like in Australia, have a set amount of people come in for the amount that came in.
They shouldn't be given council benefits or free housing.
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The country they've left? I'm not certain that people leave their country of origin to aid it but it is certainly possible to imagine a couple of scenarios where the country they have left benefits directly or indirectly.
So because I'm not perfect I shouldn't object to anything? Is that really what you're suggesting? While the idea of "let he without sin..." is a nice one it simply isn't realistic to apply wholesale, the best you can expect is that people should be a little less harsh in their criticism perhaps.
There is a certain appeal to the idea as self-levelling, if immigration is a detriment on the scale that the BNP suggest then after a while of entirely open borders there will be no incentive to immigrate because this country will not be a desirable location.
Not really sure what point you are trying to make here. There are considerable differences for not liking someone because of their views and not liking someone because of their race. One is a concious choice, the other isn't. Discriminating due to arbitary reasons beyond the control of the individual is wrong in my opinion. And no, not everyone that votes for the BNP is racist, but you would have to be somewhat dim not to realise that their main policies are just populist and have no real substance behind them. Also by giving them your support you are giving tacit support for all of their policies. Now if you can ignore their racism because you actually think they are going to enact some of the populist polices, go for it, just don't expect others to, and don't be suprised if people think less of you because of it.
BNP are getting some support in England partly as there isn't an alternative to the big 3 parties. At least in Scotland and Wales there is. Example being Salford, where the tories are hated, yet a lot of people want to protest against Labour and the Lib dems - the only real alternative is the BNP. Which is sadly who some will vote for. At least in Scotland we've got the SNP and in Wales there's that daft named party 
I can't stand the BNP, but sadly they will pick up a lot of votes from the other parties in the next EU elections
I can't stand the BNP, but sadly they will pick up a lot of votes from the other parties in the next EU elections
It is becoming less desirable with every new immigrant arrival, but bad as it is getting, it is still infinitely better than their homelands so sadly your proposal is doomed to failure.
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It's not a proposal of mine, I was merely musing on the potential. If it matters I'm not in favour of completely open borders but equally I'm not dead set against immigration either.
BNP votes are the only message they listen to, trust me.
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In response to a couple of interesting posts countering my point. Firstly There is now, and was historically a very different environment between Africa and Europe in terms of hunting. One main factor is the proximity to the equator influencing the period during which hunting was at it's easiest (I.e. the closer to the equator the longer the period you had to have highly productive periods of hunting).
Unless those who argue, disagree with a fundamental point - that being the colder the temperature the harder it is to hunt, there is no questioning that the more north you are of the equator the more intelligent the hunter has to be. In terms of strength. It appears clear to me that the characteristics of more northern animals do not heavily favor strength, whereas African pray do.
These points are plain today, as I have pointed out, Black athletes excel, whereas most academic benchmarks of excellence are dominated by white and Asian individuals. My original post was to point out we simply do not know why this is. There are lots of explanations and none fit the true statistics.
I would urge those that disagree with me to consult the statistics that are available. If you then disagree, please post here with your analysis and I'll see if you have any evidence that truly contradicts the above.
Otherwise, rather than posting I honestly think you should try and work with the numbers, do your own conditional testing. Like I say this is not about colour per say, it's about statistically supporting your own view of why there are clear differences in ability (whether that be physical or intellectual) between the races
Unless those who argue, disagree with a fundamental point - that being the colder the temperature the harder it is to hunt, there is no questioning that the more north you are of the equator the more intelligent the hunter has to be. In terms of strength. It appears clear to me that the characteristics of more northern animals do not heavily favor strength, whereas African pray do.
These points are plain today, as I have pointed out, Black athletes excel, whereas most academic benchmarks of excellence are dominated by white and Asian individuals. My original post was to point out we simply do not know why this is. There are lots of explanations and none fit the true statistics.
I would urge those that disagree with me to consult the statistics that are available. If you then disagree, please post here with your analysis and I'll see if you have any evidence that truly contradicts the above.
Otherwise, rather than posting I honestly think you should try and work with the numbers, do your own conditional testing. Like I say this is not about colour per say, it's about statistically supporting your own view of why there are clear differences in ability (whether that be physical or intellectual) between the races
Restore discipline ? What exactly does that mean ? Corporal punishment ?
Train young people in industrial skills ? What industries ? Where are the industrial jobs for these increased skills ?
Does this apply to all pupils ? Because only whites can be British, and you won't be educating non-British children. Can you confirm that non-whites or even white immigrants will have the same education ?
Those are very expensive proposals, how will they be funded ? I can tell you without even bothering to look it up that spending the entire foreign aid budget on this would not even scratch the surface.
Will immigrants or descendants of immigrants be classed as "British people" ? If not, how many generations will you have to go back ? Will these freedoms extend to all people in the UK ?
If, perhaps, in reaction to your policies the immigrants get organised and form their own political parties that gain a lot of votes, will they be free from persecution ? Will their voices be listened to ?
What if not enough people "volunteer" ? What are the projected figures ?
So you'll encourage use of public transport by making private transport cheaper. Clever.
http://bnp.org.uk/pdf_files/minimanifesto2007.pdf
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If the BNP is a serious party with real policies and not some one issue fringe group i hope you can have a stab at some of these questions.
Well just like any other manifesto, you cant put everything in, it a summary.
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I agree that positive discrimination is still discrimination and that it's wrong. However, I don't believe the BNP are going the right way. I think that everyone should have a fair chance what ever their background. The BNP are just choosing to discriminate any other race but white English and that's still discrimination. Changing the side of the fence on which you sit doesn't solve the root problem.
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I'm actually have a really good laugh looking at their 'policies'. Withdraw from NATO and close all foreign military bases?! This will not make us stronger, but disastrously weaker. Their Law and Order policies are just as mad. Reintroduce corporal punishment for vandals? Ironically I bet they are all very appalled at the stoning etc in Saudi Arabia.
Seriously, how can anyone support these policies? They're just laughable.
Seriously, how can anyone support these policies? They're just laughable.
Well yes, manifesto documents are the size of a book with detailed costings etc etc. Probably downloadable in this day in age, i'd expect the major parties will be doing it for the next election. I hope the BNP will be doing the same, if they are to be taken seriously.
I am very interested in the "voluntary return" policy. What incentive will there be ?
Also, what is the official BNP position on who is a British Citizen ?
Those are basic questions, as a supporter i'm sure you looked into this before voting.
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The more I look at their site, the more convinced I am that this could never happen.
This is what I keep telling people. Their manifesto reveals just how unfit they are to govern this country. They don't have the first clue about economics, let alone anything else. It's the sort of thing a 6th form kid would dream up because he doesn't know any better.
http://bnp.org.uk/manifestos/mini-manifesto-2007/
i like the welfare and housing ideas, i like their education ideas etc..
i like the welfare and housing ideas, i like their education ideas etc..
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The bit about using prisoner labour to build costal defences is just weird. Is it still WWII ?
They don't seem to understand that engaging in economic protectionism will just destroy our economy. We are a trading nation "Protect British Companies from unfair foreign imports" will put thousands if not millions of UK workers out of work.
Also, crime raises GDP ? huh ?