The all encompassing BNP thread - keep all crap in here.

mattheman · 23 May 2009 at 22:32

p4radox said:
I don't agree with him. Take this, for example:

If I was an Englishman living in Hong Kong, I would not be Chinese because I'd have been born in England, and almost certainly raised there too.

If I was black and had been born in Britain and lived he my entire life I'd consider myself 100% British.

That seems to be his justification for redefining black citizens as foreign residents. That then facilitates his argument that foreign residents should be repatriated.

Go to any country and and if your children are born there see if the locals call them locals or english. what abotu white brits born in india, but were seen as british not native.

p4radox · 23 May 2009 at 22:32

mattheman said:
Because they dont, but you can have a black asian citizen.

Right, so you don't think that black British citizens exist. Okay. I completely disagree, but whatever...

Can you now answer why you were trying to claim that:

mattheman said:
british citizens black grey yellow will not be sent back

which implies that they do exist. And why you tried to claim it, even though it's not true?

Inquisitor · 23 May 2009 at 22:32

deuse said:
Fair enough.
I think that there should be a police chief Voted in by the people in each city..
So if they do well they get voted in and if they do bad they are out.

Then you could nick all them MPs knowing that if you did not you would not get voted in next time.

One of the biggest problems with this kind of democracy is that your average voter knows far too little about what he's voting for. As Churchill once said:

"The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter."

mattheman · 23 May 2009 at 22:33

p4radox said:
Right, so you don't think that black British citizens exist. Okay. I completely disagree, but whatever...

Can you now answer why you were trying to claim that:

which implies that they do exist. And why you tried to claim it, even though it's not true?

but they arent native, can be a citizen of an africa country but not be an african.

chuck990 · 23 May 2009 at 22:33

dirtydog said:
Luckily the idea that our economy would crumble without mass immigration is rubbish.

in what way?? you think all the factories, farms etc would keep going without them? it would take probably a whole generation to remove the notions that we our to good for that kind of work from the arrogant brittish public who believe it is their right to have sky tv, a home, a happy family, free healthcare etc when they are too lazy to contribute

Monkey Puzzle · 23 May 2009 at 22:34

mattheman said:
the reason for that is " whats been happening over the past years"

Eh?

once your seen to join bnp peopel think oh he's a bad person.

Yeah, it's political corretness gone mad, right?

Inquisitor · 23 May 2009 at 22:35

mattheman said:
but they arent native.

So what exactly constitutes British citizenship?

Tefal · 23 May 2009 at 22:36

mattheman said:
Go to any country and and if your children are born there see if the locals call them locals or english. what abotu white brits born in india, but were seen as british not native.

So how many generations must you be able to trace your family back to be considered British.

If a black guy came here 5 generations agao and had kids with natives, as did all his descendants.

Would the 6th generation child be considered British?

the child is still black but according to the BNP there can't be a black Briton.

So just how many generations must you be able to trace your family back?

p4radox · 23 May 2009 at 22:37

mattheman said:
but they arent native, can be a citizen of an africa country but not be an african.

You didn't answer the question.

And how long does a family have to live and reproduce in Britain before it qualifies as "native"?

dirtydog · 23 May 2009 at 22:38

chuck990 said:
in what way?? you think all the factories, farms etc would keep going without them? it would take probably a whole generation to remove the notions that we our to good for that kind of work from the arrogant brittish public who believe it is their right to have sky tv, a home, a happy family, free healthcare etc when they are too lazy to contribute

I've worked in factories, warehouses, on farms - hard work for crap money. It used to be that everyone of my co-workers was white and British. Even today the vast majority of these jobs are done by white British workers. It is a MYTH that white British workers will not do these jobs, put about by the pro-immigration politicians and media.

deuse · 23 May 2009 at 22:39

chuck990 said:
in what way?? you think all the factories, farms etc would keep going without them?

So how do you think they did it before immigrants came?

dirtydog · 23 May 2009 at 22:39

p4radox said:
You didn't answer the question.

And how long does a family have to live and reproduce in Britain before it qualifies as "native"?

Never.

mattheman · 23 May 2009 at 22:39

Monkey Puzzle said:
Eh?

Yeah, it's political corretness gone mad, right?

so if your a muslim your a terrorist?

semi-pro waster · 23 May 2009 at 22:39

mattheman said:
when we say otehr races people automatically think off non whites, when in fact there are many white races.

How do you define a race then and what distinguishes one from another?

dirtydog said:
If the BNP are as feeble as you suggest, why would anyone be 'worried' about them picking up votes?

Because they can still do harm even, or perhaps I should say especially, if they are feeble. Weak or confused leadership is not something that we should look for in our politicians.

dirtydog said:
Sometimes things need to get worse before they can get better.

You make it sound as if you don't believe they're going to help or even that you think of the BNP as a temporary measure who will be replaced after bringing the country down further.

mattheman · 23 May 2009 at 22:40

p4radox said:
You didn't answer the question.

And how long does a family have to live and reproduce in Britain before it qualifies as "native"?

you just dont get it do you.

aslco · 23 May 2009 at 22:40

dirtydog said:
I've worked in factories, warehouses, on farms - hard work for crap money. It used to be that everyone of my co-workers was white and British. Even today the vast majority of these jobs are done by white British workers. It is a MYTH that white British workers will not do these jobs, put about by the pro-immigration politicians and media.

No its not.

p4radox · 23 May 2009 at 22:41

dirtydog said:
Never.

Humans have always moved around the globe. How can you define anyone as native, if they can never live anywhere long enough to become one?

mattheman · 23 May 2009 at 22:41

semi-pro waster said:
How do you define a race then and what distinguishes one from another?

.

many factors not just colour of skin.

Inquisitor · 23 May 2009 at 22:41

dirtydog said:
Never.

My family may well have originated in Holland for all I know. In fact, my surname doesn't sound that English, so there's probably a point in my family history – most likely several hundred years ago – at which they were immigrants. Does this mean I'm not a native Briton?

Say your family line goes back to the Anglo-Saxon invasion. Are you then not a native Briton?

If you go back that far, national identity has no meaning any more. What you're saying makes absolutely no sense.

Tefal · 23 May 2009 at 22:41

dirtydog said:
Never.

So you can trace your family back lets say 10 thousand years?

Not one Roman solider, not a single French frog, no Teutonic kings in your family past?

Wow you must have amazing records to be sure you're British. I mean you really should submit them to a university that would be one of the best historical record around.