The all encompassing BNP thread - keep all crap in here.

Well if you dont like my answer what can I do?

Hello so you think Osama bin Laden and his merry (deranged) men are not a risk/reason?
clear and present danger comes to mind.

anyway back to the topic in hand.

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Since when has Osama bin Laden been a threat to us, Proper confused me there you have, Where are you located ???
 
:confused:
Since when has Osama bin Laden been a threat to us, Proper confused me there you have, Where are you located ???


The terrorists that have been arrested here and was born here(UK) are funded by Abu Qatada
which is Osama bin Laden right hand man.

From the times online

" In October 2001 Abu Qatada told his followers he had received a special message
from Afghanistan and the time had come to declare holy war.
Germany found cassette recordings of his sermons in a flat used by Mohammed Atta, leader of the September 11 attacks "

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article3896879.ece

a very nasty NASTY person.
 
The Archbishops of Canterbury and York have urged voters not to let anger over
the expenses scandal drive them to vote for the BNP in next month's elections.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8065583.stm

So now the bully boys start omg.

He's from Uganda, what right does he have to meddle in our internal politics!

I wonder how the Ugandans would like it if a white British person told them who to vote for.
 
I wonder how the Ugandans would like it if a white British person told them who to vote for.

We did meddle for quite a while if I recall...

As an aside, how much British blood do you need to be called "British"? I want to know if I need to help my cousins pack if the BNP get in.
 
He's from Uganda, what right does he have to meddle in our internal politics!

I wonder how the Ugandans would like it if a white British person told them who to vote for.

Just because they wouldn't want a British person to be included in their politics does not give us justification to do similar over here with regards to a Ugandan.
 
He's from Uganda, what right does he have to meddle in our internal politics!

I wonder how the Ugandans would like it if a white British person told them who to vote for.

He's the Archbishop of York, as such I'd say he has the right to urge people to vote as he thinks appropriate, he is meant to provide guidance to his flock.
 
a very nasty NASTY person.

This was years ago though right ?
Personally I have not seen One single terrorist or been bothered by Any terrorist activity, You know bomb scares, Travel plans messed up with etc.
Also I don't know anybody that has either.


That article is a year old.
 
He's the Archbishop of York, as such I'd say he has the right to urge people to vote as he thinks appropriate, he is meant to provide guidance to his flock.


So its ok if a white/british supremacist church leader said vote with BNP?

The church's should be kept out of politics imho
 
He's from Uganda, what right does he have to meddle in our internal politics!

He's a British citizen! He has every right to comment on the politics of this country.

I wonder how the Ugandans would like it if a white British person told them who to vote for.

Last time I checked, York was not in Uganda.
 
This was years ago though right ?
Personally I have not seen One single terrorist or been bothered by Any terrorist activity, You know bomb scares, Travel plans messed up with etc.
Also I don't know anybody that has either.


That article is a year old.

You may not have seen them BUT London bombings the Glasgow car bombings happend.
 
You may not have seen them BUT London bombings the Glasgow car bombings happend.

By people who lived here though wasn't it, I don't ever remember Osama being involved.
The London bombers had more links to England than they did Osama bin Laden. :p
 
Last time I checked he was born in Uganda and is an African.

Relevance? He's a British citizen, he lives in Britain, and he's a leader in the state church.

If he was a Ugandan citizen living in Uganda with no connections to Britain whatsoever, you might have a point. But he's not, so you don't.
 
do you have any proof that the BNP restrict non whites from joining?

Why I'm glad you asked that, yes I do and from the BNP's own constitution (9th edition) - page 4 out of 8, to be a member you must be indigenous Anglo-Saxon, Norse or Celtic (plus such other people as they may think appropriate) and define yourself as indigenous Caucasian.

If you want to propose the views of the BNP then it may serve you better to know what it is that you are actually promoting.

So its ok if a white/british supremacist church leader said vote with BNP?

The church's should be kept out of politics imho

In answer to your first question, no I don't think it is but I don't presume to speak for dirtydog here - he may or may not think it fine in that case.

Churchs not being involved in politics wouldn't bother me in the least but they are supposed to offer guidance to their flock so if someone is prepared to look to them for moral direction then it seems entirely appropriate they should also offer their opinion on politics.
 
Relevance? He's a British citizen, he lives in Britain, and he's a leader in the state church.

If he was a Ugandan citizen living in Uganda with no connections to Britain whatsoever, you might have a point. But he's not, so you don't.

I wonder if you'd dismiss it so airily if the situation was reversed :)
 
Ok, let's go round again...

Is John Sentamu not allowed to comment because he was born in Uganda?
What if he'd been born in the Uk?
What if his parents, grandparents, etc were born here?
How far back would his lineage have to go?
If it's British lineage that we're considering, does that also apply to other potentially non-British whites?

Either it's about lineage, in which case a whole load of whites have to go too, or it's about colour.

Please can a BNP apologist, or one of you who thinks Mr Sentamu has no right to comment, please answer all the above questions in full. Preferably in reasoned, well spelt, grammatically correct sentences, but to be honest I'll take what I can get.
 
I don't think the church should meddle in politics, full stop. I especially don't think that a foreigner should meddle in British politics :)

I think the church can advise, though it shouldn't be setting policy. That's an aside though.

What if the archbishop had been born here? Could he comment then?
 
I think the church can advise, though it shouldn't be setting policy. That's an aside though.

What if the archbishop had been born here? Could he comment then?

I will ask you this.
if a white/british supremacist church leader said vote with BNP, that to you would be ok?
 
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