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Evangelion said:
I'll be the first to agree that the UK is overcrowded and needs far stricter immigration controls. But speaking as an immigrant myself, I want to know where all these wonderful benefits are, because I didn't receive any of them when I came here nearly 5 years ago.

I was not given a free home (not even a council house; I wasn't eligible). I did not receive any benefits (I wasn't eligible). I did not receive jobseekers' allowance (I wasn't eligible). I was able to use the NHS, but only because my home country has a reciprocal agreement with the UK.

So tell me please, how was I supposed to get all these great benefits? Did I miss something? Is there a trick to it?
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If you'd been penniless and homeless which I'm assuming you weren't, then you would have done.
 
etom said:
no:rolleyes: why would they.
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Well, they say they want to repatriate foreigners, so why not me?

it probably would have been harder for you to enter the UK in the first place unless you had skills we need. You know like the majority of places in the world?
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I didn't have to declare any skills whatsoever.
 
dirtydog said:
It isn't just I and the BNP who think we are overcrowded. Listen to Labour MP Frank Field for example.

http://www.frankfield.co.uk/media/p...on-will-be-bigger-than-germany-in-midcentury/
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Many BNP supporters are uneducated working class white peopel living in cities with low income. They likley don't travel too much and have less of a knowledge or the general trend in Britain. Why dont people actually live in nice palces?

This has always confused me. Stop whining about london / overcrowding / materilistic southern sods. Just find a nice half urban half rural place and enjoy where you live. If you hate immigration move somewhere nicer. it gives you a good excuse to try something new and improve on life. Rather than moaning that they cant do a job that shortens their life by 10+ years so that they can pay for a ***** little house in an area which they hate anyway.

Many rual nice properties are cheaper than inner city **** holes. People just need to look into ways to adapt and use initiative themselves rather than moaning that they feel their one option in life has been stolen.
 
dirtydog said:
If you'd been penniless and homeless which I'm assuming you weren't, then you would have done.
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I wasn't penniless, but I was homeless until I finally found somewhere to live. The council wasn't interested in helping, since I wasn't a British citizen.

Are you saying that if I'd been an immigrant with no money, I would have been eligible for council housing? Is that how it works?
 
lozzick said:
Many BNP supporters are uneducated working class white peopel living in cities with low income. They likley don't travel too much and have less of a knowledge or the general trend in Britain. Why dont people actually live in nice palces?

This has always confused me. Stop whining about london / overcrowding / materilistic southern sods. Just find a nice half urban half rural place and enjoy where you live. If you hate immigration move somewhere nicer. it gives you a good excuse to try something new and improve on life. Rather than moaning that they cant do a job that shortens their life by 10+ years so that they can pay for a ***** little house in an area which they hate anyway.

Many rual nice properties are cheaper than inner city **** holes. People just need to look into ways to adapt and use initiative themselves rather than moaning that they feel their one option in life has been stolen.
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Right.
 
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Hatter The Mad said:
http://www.mapsofworld.com/world-top-ten/world-top-ten-most-densely-populated-countries-map.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_population_density

Ok, we're number 50 then, which is hardly problematic or outstanding.
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Where is England? Fail.

And has MANY times more of an agricultural based economy than ours.. so go figure.
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You mean they have enough land to feed themselves whereas we are dependent upon imported food to survive! Ah yes. Thanks for proving my point.
 
dirtydog said:
You mean they have enough land to feed themselves whereas we are dependent upon imported food to survive! Ah yes. Thanks for proving my point.
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No, their economy cannot support their agricultural system, which is why France is one of (if not still the) biggest sink of farming subsidies from the EU (with Germany and the UK paying in the most)... because that's how economic unions (EEC) work, y'know... to negate an imbalance in economic focus, and to negate food import/export imbalances.

More developed countries are unable to self-sustain than those which can self-sustain. This is just a truth of the modern global age we live in. The times of countries self-sustaining is gone, which is why we have things like the EEC, or the North American Trade Union.
 
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Regardless of currency valuations, we do not physically have enough spare agricultural land to provide food for our large population. France does. If push came to shove, France's people would survive and many in Britain would starve. But never mind, let's keep building over what's left of our arable land shall we? You know best!
 
dirtydog said:
Regardless of currency valuations, we do not physically have enough spare agricultural land to provide food for our large population. France does. If push came to shove, France's people would survive and many in Britain would starve. But never mind, let's keep building over what's left of our arable land shall we? You know best!
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Neither would most other countries in Europe. I don't get your point, this is a truth and fact of the global age we live in. Exactly why the EEC was formed. You don't have a point.
 
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