Albeit not showed last night Midfield is an area where we don't need strengthening, Carrick, Fletcher, Hargreaves, Anderson, Scholes & Giggs are more than enough.... as long as we dont go 1-0 down to Barca again
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Albeit not showed last night Midfield is an area where we don't need strengthening, Carrick, Fletcher, Hargreaves, Anderson, Scholes & Giggs are more than enough.... as long as we dont go 1-0 down to Barca again
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I did think that, now I'm not so sure. Giggs and Scholes are past it, there are to many bad performances in between the good ones. And Hargreaves just can't be relied on. I'd love to see him fit and getting a full season but it's just a huge thing to count on.
Albeit not showed last night Midfield is an area where we don't need strengthening, Carrick, Fletcher, Hargreaves, Anderson, Scholes & Giggs are more than enough.... as long as we dont go 1-0 down to Barca again
Carrick, Fletcher and Hargreaves are solid players but I wouldn't call them world class. Anderson, Scholes and Giggs were really shrinking violets last night in the face of the class of Iniesta and Xavi in midfield.
Albeit not showed last night Midfield is an area where we don't need strengthening, Carrick, Fletcher, Hargreaves, Anderson, Scholes & Giggs are more than enough.... as long as we dont go 1-0 down to Barca again
Don't want to stir up any Man Utd fans, especially not today, but in my opinion none of those players are world class, and that's not right for a team of Man Utd's quality. Schole and Giggs aren't fit to play any significant role for Man Utd anymore, Anderson isn't there yet, Fletcher is good but obviously no where near world class, Carrick is very good but I wouldn't say he's one of the world's best, Hargreaves is my pick of the bunch but you'd be naive to rely on him. I think that Man Utd's defence and attack are world class but the midfield are letting them down big time.
Aye, but if Man Utd want to compete with Barca over the next few years they're going to need somebody to play against Xavi and Iniesta with, last night was sort of embarrassing, I don't think Xavi or Iniesta lost the ball or even came close to doing so, there was such a gulf in class.
Man Utd are missing that class/ability in their midfield.Yeah I agree, it's likely they will play each other again next year at some point.
I'm not saying they don't need a world class CM but I really can't put my finger on someone who could compete (and who United could buy) with the likes of Barca's duo.
I'm not saying they don't need a world class CM but I really can't put my finger on someone who could compete (and who United could buy) with the likes of Barca's duo.
First time ive ever thought i wouldnt mind if ronaldo went, we need a CM that can controll the game, and if ronaldo went im sure we could buy in someone to fill his boots with a better work ephic and pulls out more consistant performances, and above all doesnt winge and gets on with the game, and actualy runs back, ronaldo is NOT a full player imo like everyone says, last night fergi picked the wrong team imo, scholes should have been on from the start, anderson was just unbelievably poor, park did.....nothing.....and o'shea ? seriously
i hope this transfer window has something in store for us
i hope this transfer window has something in store for us
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I thought his tactics were wrong too.
tbh I wouldn't have brought Anderson off for Tevez when he did, I think (even though he had had a pretty poor game) United missed his energy in the second half. I would have taken off Giggs.
tbh I wouldn't have brought Anderson off for Tevez when he did, I think (even though he had had a pretty poor game) United missed his energy in the second half. I would have taken off Giggs.
Yeah that's basically the problem, there's just a shortage of CM's who can compete with Xavi and Iniesta and the clubs who have them will not be selling anytime soon
Personally think Owen Hargreaves was EXACTLY what Utd missed last night (and to a lesser extent Fletcher) instead of Giggs
If OH had been able to play there would have been muscle and graft to go with the artistry / Skill of Carrick and Anderson could have played his more natural game
There is a serious doubt whether OH will come back anywhere near what he was like in his first season (where he only played 26 games due to injury) let alone completely injury free - but if he does he will be worth his weight in gold.
Barca wherent that much better last night compared to in the semii last season, but Utd where missing crucial players (and two centre backs nursing injuries)
Barca deserved it - but Utd arent as far behind as it looked last night
If OH had been able to play there would have been muscle and graft to go with the artistry / Skill of Carrick and Anderson could have played his more natural game
There is a serious doubt whether OH will come back anywhere near what he was like in his first season (where he only played 26 games due to injury) let alone completely injury free - but if he does he will be worth his weight in gold.
Barca wherent that much better last night compared to in the semii last season, but Utd where missing crucial players (and two centre backs nursing injuries)
Barca deserved it - but Utd arent as far behind as it looked last night
Do you really believe that? I don't even think Barca were at full speed and they could have had 4+, Henry should really have finished that chance, Xavi's free kick was very close and Puyol had a glorious chance. I think Barcelona were better in every single aspect of the game and comprehensively took Man Utd apart, without their first choice team (nowhere near in fact.)
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What, missed Andersons energy, didn't play his natural game. Every time I read something about him he was played in the wrong position no matter what it was. He didn't have ANY energy in the first half, he never got far enough forwards to support Ronaldo, he was ALWAYS ahead of Carrick, he didn't track back except for one time that I can remember when he fouled Iniesta from behind. He wasn't playing DM last night, Carrick was, the second Scholes came on he dropped in behind Carrick who moved forwards 15 yards and started to pass from inbetween Barca's midfield and back 4, thats his position. Giggs and Anderson were the worst performers on the pitch, and the criticism of Ronaldo who didn't track back, when being played as the essentially, lone striker needed to stay up the field is pathetic. he was easily your best player on the night and got little to no support when he got the ball, not least because when your fastest player get the ball while furthest up the pitch, no one could catch up, ludicrous choice to push upfront.
Scholes was actually better throughout the season as he got more consistant games, Giggs had a period of about 4 great games just after xmas, was incredibly average or poor before and since, a complete non entity last night. You need a replacement for Giggs, Rooney is a very good left midfielder and he could be there long term, he's played great there with a Berbatov to play off and bring him into the game, but Tevez isn't capable of that and Ronaldo is simply too quick for Rooney to catch up. Scholes has another year, but needs a long term replacement, Anderson will never ever be good enough for utd, Hargreaves you can't be sure will ever return(much like Rosicky) and have no idea how good he might be if he does. Fletcher, lol, isn't a holding midfielder, isn't fantastic and isn't ever going to be a key player. Carrick, can't ever be deployed as a DM, ever, he's got no ability there. UTd need a back up DM or if Hargreaves never gets fit, a first team DM, and its that simple.
i can't remember who it was on here going on and on about people claiming Utd needing a DM and Utd proving them wrong, earlier this season someone on here was full of it, well, the reason you need a good DM< is for beating good teams, not West brom and Boro.
Calling into Ronaldo's consistancy, when he was the ONLY threat for you on the pitch, the only one who got decent shots on, the only one putting pressure on anyone even if it was fouls, when you're chasing the game letting the other team you're on the pitch isn't a bad idea
Hasn't he scored 37 goals in the last 33 home games, inconsistant? Scored plenty away aswell. He barely got the ball last night and still created chances out of nothing, Utd fans deciding to pick out how you don't need Ronaldo, after last nights performance is quite literally unbelievable.
Scholes was actually better throughout the season as he got more consistant games, Giggs had a period of about 4 great games just after xmas, was incredibly average or poor before and since, a complete non entity last night. You need a replacement for Giggs, Rooney is a very good left midfielder and he could be there long term, he's played great there with a Berbatov to play off and bring him into the game, but Tevez isn't capable of that and Ronaldo is simply too quick for Rooney to catch up. Scholes has another year, but needs a long term replacement, Anderson will never ever be good enough for utd, Hargreaves you can't be sure will ever return(much like Rosicky) and have no idea how good he might be if he does. Fletcher, lol, isn't a holding midfielder, isn't fantastic and isn't ever going to be a key player. Carrick, can't ever be deployed as a DM, ever, he's got no ability there. UTd need a back up DM or if Hargreaves never gets fit, a first team DM, and its that simple.
i can't remember who it was on here going on and on about people claiming Utd needing a DM and Utd proving them wrong, earlier this season someone on here was full of it, well, the reason you need a good DM< is for beating good teams, not West brom and Boro.
Calling into Ronaldo's consistancy, when he was the ONLY threat for you on the pitch, the only one who got decent shots on, the only one putting pressure on anyone even if it was fouls, when you're chasing the game letting the other team you're on the pitch isn't a bad idea
Hasn't he scored 37 goals in the last 33 home games, inconsistant? Scored plenty away aswell. He barely got the ball last night and still created chances out of nothing, Utd fans deciding to pick out how you don't need Ronaldo, after last nights performance is quite literally unbelievable.
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He is partially right (The Ronaldo stuff) The rest of it is quite rubbish though.
Anderson isn't good enough and has no energy.
Giggs and Scholes need replacing.
Ronaldo is too fast and the wrong type of player to play up on his own when you need to hit a side on the break.
Hargreaves might never return and can't be relied upon.
Rooney done well on the left especially when there's someone in the middle to bring him into the game.
All correct.
Giggs and Scholes need replacing.
Ronaldo is too fast and the wrong type of player to play up on his own when you need to hit a side on the break.
Hargreaves might never return and can't be relied upon.
Rooney done well on the left especially when there's someone in the middle to bring him into the game.
All correct.
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But that isn't what he said