The all encompassing BNP thread - keep all crap in here.

dirtydog · 6 Jun 2009 at 17:21

Doohickey said:
The NHS is the probably the largest 'business' in the United Kingdom.

Sigh - I think my point was clear, that the NHS does not get better off the more patients it treats.

dirtydog · 6 Jun 2009 at 17:21

chuck990 said:
yay BNP have their first two seats

Three.

Remember they have won far more than three local council seats in the past, but this is the first time they've ever won seats at the higher, county council level.

dirtydog · 6 Jun 2009 at 17:35

Burnsy2023 said:
OcUK doesn't need more than one topic of BNP crap.

I did suspect that this sort of topic probably wasn't welcome here tbh.

Von Smallhausen · 6 Jun 2009 at 17:36

Telescopi said:
The real truth is the police probably hate you, they probably hate me, they certainly hate anyone in a wooley top waving a placard. But I'd hope they would act professionally, no matter what stupid thing I'd done.

Why would hate come into it ?

I can only speak for myself but policing is a game, albeit a sometimes very dangerous one, and with all games you win and lose some.

Hate makes it personal to me and that makes no sense.

As for placard waving wooly toppers I have no problems whatsoever with lawful and peaceful protest and I use G8 in 2005 as an example where we were cracking on to some genuine protestors with good banter all round.

On the other side, we were met with hostile violence by anarchistic types but even then hate did not come into it on my part.

Vidar · 6 Jun 2009 at 18:41

MotherMayI said:
You do realise, your forum name makes me, and no probably others, doubt every single decent word you say in relation to politics/race/nationalism?

Yes but isnt that just an assumption on your and their parts? My forum name represents me as does yours but it does not define me, Ive had a skin head since I was 12, im now 26 and its just what I feel suites me, and im from the North West hence NW_SKINHEAD. If I was to make a similar assumption based on your forum name, I could form the opinion that you are a mummy's boy. But I try not to make assumptions, dont like making an Ar** of myself.

slambo69 · 6 Jun 2009 at 18:52

I dont think its a coincidence that the makority of BNP supporters are lazy, un-motivated working class who are happy to sit on their backside and complain instead of working/learning and contributing to our country.

In my opinion, Conservative policies and people have been the best for our country, not BNP.

Doctor_Zhivago · 6 Jun 2009 at 18:59

slambo69 said:
I dont think its a coincidence that the makority of BNP supporters are lazy, un-motivated working class who are happy to sit on their backside and complain instead of working/learning and contributing to our country.

Link?

malef!c · 6 Jun 2009 at 19:04

Doctor_Zhivago said:
Link?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk ?

HarryPainful · 6 Jun 2009 at 19:20

Monkey Puzzle said:
OP, why'd you call yourself NW Skinhead?

And expect to be taken seriously... :rolleyes:

aslco · 6 Jun 2009 at 19:22

"andy" said:
why though? theyre not against 'black people'

a lot of bnp members are but anyway on to the point in hand. I never carry disagreements in political threads over to unrelated ones on members.

To the OP

I understand you vote BNP for those reason yet at the same time don't understand why you dont for other parties who may better suit your ideas. The BNP have no in depth policy and even if on the whole they aim not to be racist too many of their members are and many representatives are as proven in various dispatches programs etc.

However, no issues otherwise and hope to see you keep posting.

Azagoth · 6 Jun 2009 at 19:34

slambo69 said:
I dont think its a coincidence that the makority of BNP supporters are lazy, un-motivated working class who are happy to sit on their backside and complain instead of working/learning and contributing to our country.

Doctor_Zhivago said:
Link?

He won't be posting a link to back up his statement as such a link doesn't exist. He's just making a sweeping generalisation based on his own ignorance.

MotherMayI · 6 Jun 2009 at 21:23

Azagoth said:
He won't be posting a link to back up his statement as such a link doesn't exist. He's just making a sweeping generalisation based on his own ignorance.

Almost like a BNP policy really then, eh?

colinuk · 6 Jun 2009 at 21:44

Delvis said:
That's the problem, if you are patriotic, you are instantly labeled as racist pretty much.

Only if you live in the UK.

I not one to vote for the BNP, they lack vision for me, but i hope they get a few seats to shake up a few places. Maybe time some places stood up and said enough.

Whats wrong with being anglo-saxon/french/roman/german/white/black/indian/brown as we all are in the UK after being invaded so many times and wanting to be proud. Maybe take a look at the people who tell you not to be proud and see what they stand for then work it out.

ColiN - i hated it so much, i moved!

slambo69 · 6 Jun 2009 at 21:49

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/alex_s...g_people_for_unemployment?com_num=20&com_pg=3

Even though it became nigh on impossible to find an affordable plumber, few members of the underclass were willing to learn the trade. They preferred to sit at home watching satellite television on incapacity benefit or income support, rather than work.

http://www.newstatesman.com/uk-politics/2009/05/bnp-stoke-local-city-party

Just the sort of place the BNP loves...Stoke is a town in decline and it is in declining towns that the far right is taking hold.

Im not sure about the second one though, BNP are a bunch of left wing loonies, not a right wing party. Capitalism 4 eva!!

deuse · 6 Jun 2009 at 22:07

slambo69 said:
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/alex_s...g_people_for_unemployment?com_num=20&com_pg=3

Well that guy is talking out of his ass. There is hardly any retraining now for anything.
There is the Shaw trust but same again not much help.
Maggie the HUN stopped retraining years back and it was said at the time
that the UK would pay the price.

Pyroblaze · 7 Jun 2009 at 00:00

What i'd like to know is how self professed non racists can sit and defend the reasons why they are wanting to vote this party in based on "some" of their principles. The be all and end all of this party is completely against any other race than our own, regardless of them putting forward a handful of dent policies. IMO any who thinks otherwise is an idiot or just in denial.

Red Porsche · 7 Jun 2009 at 00:26

Whats the point in this thread? Its just one big circular agument.

Id rather talk about causation.

Has anyone else seen one of those leaflets that the daily mail have done?

Vidar · 7 Jun 2009 at 02:12

Pyroblaze said:
What i'd like to know is how self professed non racists can sit and defend the reasons why they are wanting to vote this party in based on "some" of their principles. The be all and end all of this party is completely against any other race than our own, regardless of them putting forward a handful of dent policies. IMO any who thinks otherwise is an idiot or just in denial.

The problem as I see it is the overall political system in this country, there are a great many like minded people such as myself who are completley fed up with the way this country works, take the last local election in my area, several months ago, my whole life people explained to me the importance of voting, how countless lives had been lost to ensure I had the right to vote etc but when I get to the polling station I have three options, Labour, Lib dems and the Tories basically three parties with virtually no difference. If I dont want to vote for either of them I have two choices, spoil my ballot slip "None of the above" or something to that effect or dont vote. So one way or another one of these cloned drones is going to end up running things, whats the point? And then god forbid one of these clones does a bad job, steals from the tax payer etc etc what can we do about it? Petition for resignation which is likely to be ignored. We cant file for a vote of no confidence and pass the job on to someone else via a vote.

So like me you take a step back and have a look at the alternatives, Green Party, Ukip etc etc none of which have any real common sense policies, then you stumble across the BNP, who have some brilliant and innovative policies that would really shake things up in this country and then some which are abit far fetched. Who do you go for? As far as I see it there is sadly no other party even remotley capable of breaking us out of this self perpetuating cycle... so they get my vote wherever and when ever for now!

Pyroblaze · 7 Jun 2009 at 02:18

NW_SKINHEAD said:
The problem as I see it is the overall political system in this country, there are a great many like minded people such as myself who are completley fed up with the way this country works, take the last local election in my area, several months ago, my whole life people explained to me the importance of voting, how countless lives had been lost to ensure I had the right to vote etc but when I get to the polling station I have three options, Labour, Lib dems and the Tories basically three parties with virtually no difference. If I dont want to vote for either of them I have two choices, spoil my ballot slip "None of the above" or something to that effect or dont vote. So one way or another one of these cloned drones is going to end up running things, whats the point? And then god forbid one of these clones does a bad job, steals from the tax payer etc etc what can we do about it? Petition for resignation which is likely to be ignored. We cant file for a vote of no confidence and pass the job on to someone else via a vote.

So like me you take a step back and have a look at the alternatives, Green Party, Ukip etc etc none of which have any real common sense policies, then you stumble across the BNP, who have some brilliant and innovative policies that would really shake things up in this country and then some which are abit far fetched. Who do you go for? As far as I see it there is sadly no other party even remotley capable of breaking us out of this self perpetuating cycle... so they get my vote wherever and when ever for now!

So you vote for a party who will in the end try to purge all immigrants from our country, will in all likelyhood will be against anything whatsover that means anyone of any colour will have a say in our society, in our country and in europe. Does where that kind of party can lead us even come into your thinking of voting them in? I'm not saying it is 100% going to lead down that path, no one can say that but in the chances are it will.

Be the Next 1930's Germany? No thanks.

Edit - you make it sound like you're trying to choose between the lesser of the two evils... how ironic is that.

r2d2 · 7 Jun 2009 at 02:31

Does Nick Griffin still admire Ayotolah Khomeni?