The all encompassing BNP thread - keep all crap in here.

Captain_Slick · 8 Jun 2009 at 12:43

markyp23 said:
This is absolute nonsense. From a current medical student.

Obviously. It was a rhetorical question. Muuuhhhr.

uv · 8 Jun 2009 at 12:43

Burnsy2023 said:
Stop right there. The history behind this is not trivial. Don't try to trivialise it by saying here was only one or two factors, it's much more wide reaching than that.

Indeed. Not only has the subject become completely off topic, but trivializing it in such a manner is abhorrent. Please, drop the 'history of fascism' derailment, and continue on the original thread topic.

mattheman · 8 Jun 2009 at 12:43

Burnsy2023 said:
Stop right there. The history behind this is not trivial. Don't try to trivialise it by saying here was only one or two factors, it's much more wide reaching than that.

Why stop there, even keynes said that asking to much of germany will cause problems later.

Captain_Slick · 8 Jun 2009 at 12:44

uv said:
Indeed. Not only has the subject become completely off topic, but trivializing it in such a manner is abhorrent. Please, drop the 'history of fascism' derailment, and continue on the original thread topic.

Errrr.... this thread doesn't have an original topic. It is several threads combined, on the BNP, on nationalism, on white supremacy, etc.

uv · 8 Jun 2009 at 12:44

mattheman said:
Why stop there even keynes said that asking to much of germany will cause problems later.

Feel free to make a new thread on the subject if it bothers you that greatly!

wordy · 8 Jun 2009 at 12:44

rypt said:
Same for me; I have more different heritage than I want to count ... British, Russian, Israeli, Portuguese, tiny bit Indian and um some other stuff ...

Pfft thats easy for you to say, The other week I found out one of my granddads was Irish

rypt · 8 Jun 2009 at 12:45

sandman06 said:
i dont understand how you can look white, your either white or your not. its debatable if your michael jackson

How much off-white do you need to be to no longer be classed as white?
Human skin colour is not digital but rather analogue where there is an infinite number of possible shades and pigment combinations.

Stolly · 8 Jun 2009 at 12:46

dirtydog said:
I never said that it did. I just stated a fact that non whites breed at a vastly higher rate than whites do, in this country. The causation is irrelevant to me, the end results are what matters.

The point, that you seem unable to grasp, is that it is not the colour of their skin that is important.

"Whites" don't tend to have less children. Poor people, and people from poor countries (or 1st and 2nd gen immigrated from) tend to have more, along with people from religious backgrounds that discourage the use of contraception. These are some of the factors, not the colour of someones skin. Claiming skin colour in isolation as an important factor is intellectually flawed and frankly lazy.

lixxus · 8 Jun 2009 at 12:46

Captain_Slick said:
Errrr.... this thread doesn't have an original topic. It is several threads combined, on the BNP, on nationalism, on white supremacy, etc.

thats because the OP. just posted his 2 cents and f off causing a flame war and mass trolling

Burnsy2023 · 8 Jun 2009 at 12:46

semi-pro waster said:
I don't think that splitting it down further offers any benefit except for recording purposes to measure ethnic diversity -

I agree, but I think that recording ethnic diversity is a bit of a misnomer.

lixxus · 8 Jun 2009 at 12:48

rypt said:
How much off-white do you need to be to no longer be classed as white?
Human skin colour is not digital but rather analogue where there is an infinite number of possible shades and pigment combinations.

when you know your white rather than saying you look white

Burnsy2023 · 8 Jun 2009 at 12:49

mattheman said:
Why stop there, even keynes said that asking to much of germany will cause problems later.

I said stop because twisting history to support your own political beliefs has ALWAYS ended up in a flawed argument.

Monkey Puzzle · 8 Jun 2009 at 12:49

sandman06 said:
so if you look white. you can call yourself british ?

i dont understand how you can look white, your either white or your not. its debatable if your michael jackson

It isn't so black and white (ho ho). People don't only come in white, black or asian skin colours, there are shades in-between (from contamination of the white indiginous bloodline as the honourable Mr Griffin and his chums would put it).

Burnsy2023 · 8 Jun 2009 at 12:49

sandman06 said:
when you know your white rather than saying you look white

And that means? How do you know if you're white?

Also what does being 'white' actually mean? Aren't Eastern Europeans white?

Captain_Slick · 8 Jun 2009 at 12:49

I'm not white.

I'm human.

Race means nothing.

Dave M · 8 Jun 2009 at 12:51

mattheman said:
no the british and us government were the force behind that, asking (Article 88)/ had to pay reparations etc.. to the winning team, infact they asked for so much that the germans had to print money.

You could say the UK had it's part in that, but the US had no interest and to not even mention the role France played is disingenuous at best.

deuse · 8 Jun 2009 at 12:51

Skidder said:
Frankly, yes, that is SO wrong.

Why?

Moley · 8 Jun 2009 at 12:51

Sudden said:
It's not a problem i've come across in India since while we do have the occasional child who doesn't speak hindi well, the medium of teaching is english so he rarely struggles in class. Except for hindi classes but that's to be expected and never really faced it at school in London.

So am I to take it that you were taught in English in India?

uber soldat · 8 Jun 2009 at 12:51

Telescopi said:
You could say the UK had it's part in that, but the US had no interest and to not even mention the role France played is disingenuous at best.

Don't get me started on those cheese eating surrender monkeys

Burnsy2023 · 8 Jun 2009 at 12:52

Captain_Slick said:
I'm not white.

I'm human.

Race means nothing.

In a similar vein, I think cultural identity means more and is race independent.