The all encompassing BNP thread - keep all crap in here.

an example of that is the bangladeshi community. none of the older people can speak english. they rely on there kids to translate for them and fill out forms etc. and look how long they been here. there kids dont do to well at school as well because their is no support at home. there was a brief documentary on c4 comparing asians and the mentality of indians, pakistani and bangladeshi and indians came top

Actually, current surveys show that Asian schoolboys are outperforming their white counterparts by a substantial degree. They're getting top marks while whites flounder at the bottom of the rankings.
 
Actually, current surveys show that Asian schoolboys are outperforming their white counterparts by a substantial degree. They're getting top marks while whites flounder at the bottom of the rankings.

Notice it says Asian, i have absolutely no doubt that if you broke those figures down it would be the Indians who would be light years ahead of those from Pakistan and Bangladesh and helping to distort the figure more than a little.
 
Moley said:
The answer to this is obvious - he has no choice but to take their vote.
He does however have the ability to determine who can or cannot be a member of his party.

Just goes to show how mercenary and opportunist the british public is though - a Sikh voting for the BNP because they think they will kick out Muslims... ironic.

He does have a choice, if he tells them their kind aren't welcome in this country would they would still vote for them? I'm sure he was more than happy to butter them up and lead them on telling them how he would solve the Extremist Muslim problem, shows what a bunch of hypocrites the BNP are as well. However like you say it is ironic considering he wants the Sikhs as well and the Muslims out. Those Sikhs need a slap as well and then again there were some Sikh company printing out the flyers for BNP as well. Traitors to their own people they are....


Why don't they just impose a minimum tax on them, so say a minimum of £5k a year and take away all their rights to benefits? Make them work for x amount of years before they can take benefits and if they want to bring their families over charge them for that as well? Plenty of money to be made out of them.
 
No, you can only tell people you're Spanish if your parents are resident tehre when you're born and/or you are registered as a Spanish national. If you boat over to France and drop a sprog, doesn't make it French. If you emmigrate to France and register your newborn as a French citizen, then they're French. If, 5 years later, you decide you miss the rain, expense and fear, you can move back to England - the 5-year old will have to be reregistered as an British citizen, but it's pretty much a given since the parents will still hold their British citizenship and the child is still somewhat dependent on them.

Thankyou :)
 
Probably pointless trying since most of you not only harbor clearly racist views but seem to have done so for a very long time.. maybe easier just waiting for you to die in the next couple of decades and hope my generation and those that follow are better educated.

Its nice to see you read my posts but bad because you miss read them.
and please show me where I said I was racist?
that will give you something to do.
 
Just a quick thought, are the French racist for providing no benefits to the immigrants hanging around Calais trying to get into this country?
 
Again you say try to get people to leave, how exactly do you propose that the BNP would try to get people to leave. You can't make people leave voluntarily, then it isn't voluntary.

Dude you are totally missing the original point I made and we seem to be going off on a strange semantics tangent here about the details of how the BNP operates - which isn't relevant.

To re-cap and hopefully clarify:

Jazz pointed out that Nick Griffin had made a point that some Sikhs had voted for him in Bradford "as they would tackle the growing problem of extremists Muslims in this country".

The BNP have made it clear that their was of dealing with extremist Muslims would be "to send them all back home" - in line with their policies of repatriation.

I pointed out that it is ironic for the Sikhs to have voted for a party that would be just as happy to repatriate the Sikhs (albeit voluntary) as the Muslims.

Hope this clears things up.
 
71 pages into this discussion may be a little late to raise the issue, but... is it at all possible that some people may side with the BNP because they agree with some of their more valid arguments? By which I mean, is it possible that some BNP supporters aren't mouth-breathing fascists with a desire to burn the imperfect from our midst?
 
This BNP victory (and yes it is a victory for them) has been coming and if any members of the government had bothered reading OCUK (or listening to people) for the past few years they'd have known this.

Some MPs did see this coming however, it was interesting listening to Conservative MP Nicholas Soames on the Jeremy Vine show at lunchtime on how he and Labour's Frank Field could see this coming and tried obtaining an all-party compromise on immigration whereby people were free to come and work here but would not be able to apply (and almost certaintly obtain) British citizenship after living here for 4 years. But the point is Nick that you couldn't obtain this agreement and the current shambles continued which is why so many people are annoyed and voted BNP.

Also interesting hear Peter Hain's reasons why people shouldn't vote BNP. Mostly because they are a "nasty", "racist", "nazi-like", "fascist" party. If all he can do is accuse them of these things then the BNP are in better shape than this result would indicate. Massive :rolleyes: from me.
 
Its stratling the resemblance the way the BMP are pointing thier fingers at the easy targets for thier failures just like Hitler was blaming the Jews for all of Germany's problems. Its the cowards way to blame other for your own misfortunes.

Ill try and help:

You dont have jobs because youre fat lazy uneducated ***** not because the minorities are taking your jobs.

The country's finacial problems are due to rich majority "white" bankers & MP's not because of the minorities.

The "whites are being discriminated against" - What planet are you living on, try walking in a black or asians persons boots in the 70-80s and youlle find out what discrimination is.

Indigenous people of Britain - OOh ive been waitng for this card to be played. The country which raped, molested, stole from dozens of nations across the world including India, South Africa, US, Americas, Australia just to name a few. You know the Crown jewels are indian right? England British are the ones that have destroyed indigenous peoples across the globe.

My final thoughts, how about all the indigenous people of the British Empire all "go back home" to Europe and the majority back to Britain. So all the white americans move to britain and give the land back to the Native Indignous Indian peoples, same for white south africans, the Auzzies etc then we will see if you still complain about minorities coming in with a Billion population to worry about.
 
71 pages into this discussion may be a little late to raise the issue, but... is it at all possible that some people may side with the BNP because they agree with some of their more valid arguments? By which I mean, is it possible that some BNP supporters aren't mouth-breathing fascists with a desire to burn the imperfect from our midst?

I would guess most of their voters fall into this category.
Although saying hat BNP votes did not rise. The only reason they got the two seats was the voters for the other parties failed to vote. Probably due to total lack of belief in the system.

We really need to make voting forced like Australia. And like the Americans make a big fuss of it. Debates on prime time tv and proper education in secondary schools about politics and how it all works.
 
He does have a choice, if he tells them their kind aren't welcome in this country would they would still vote for them? I'm sure he was more than happy to butter them up and lead them on telling them how he would solve the Extremist Muslim problem, shows what a bunch of hypocrites the BNP are as well. However like you say it is ironic considering he wants the Sikhs as well and the Muslims out. Those Sikhs need a slap as well and then again there were some Sikh company printing out the flyers for BNP as well. Traitors to their own people they are....

No he doesn't have a choice. He can attempt to infuence their choice by campaigning but at the end of the day the Sikh guys voted for who they wanted to. Even if Nick Griffin didn't want their vote, he couldn't have stopped them voting for him if they wanted to. Ergo - he has no choice.

I think it is clear that the Sikh guys made a cynical tactical vote based on their own political aims - to get rid of Muslim extremists - knowing full well that the Labour and Tory parties wouldn't do a thing for them and they were willing to vote for the BNP to achieve that aim.
 
Its stratling the resemblance the way the BMP are pointing thier fingers at the easy targets for thier failures just like Hitler was blaming the Jews for all of Germany's problems. Its the cowards way to blame other for your own misfortunes.

Ill try and help:

You dont have jobs because youre fat lazy uneducated ***** not because the minorities are taking your jobs.

The country's finacial problems are due to rich majority "white" bankers & MP's not because of the minorities.

The "whites are being discriminated against" - What planet are you living on, try walking in a black or asians persons boots in the 70-80s and youlle find out what discrimination is.

Indigenous people of Britain - OOh ive been waitng for this card to be played. The country which raped, molested, stole from dozens of nations across the world including India, South Africa, US, Americas, Australia just to name a few. You know the Crown jewels are indian right? England British are the ones that have destroyed indigenous peoples across the globe.

My final thoughts, how about all the indigenous people of the British Empire all "go back home" to Europe and the majority back to Britain. So all the white americans move to britain and give the land back to the Native Indignous Indian peoples, same for white south africans, the Auzzies etc then we will see if you still complain about minorities coming in with a Billion population to worry about.


Racist much? :p
 
Notice it says Asian, i have absolutely no doubt that if you broke those figures down it would be the Indians who would be light years ahead of those from Pakistan and Bangladesh and helping to distort the figure more than a little.

The break down means little, there are always anomalies in any sample. Simply the average for Asians is higher than for whites in the same age group.
Why? because, IMO, too many whites are becoming lazy, apathetic, blame everyone else but themselves for their troubles. Increasingly, white youths get what they want from even more apathetic parents who provide everything with no strings just for a quiet life and to reduce the risk of their child screaming abuse because they have to earn the new iPod they want.
The Asian teens I know have the same sort of toys as their white counterparts but have to earn them either educationally or by doing chores or both.
Tell me, which of the above situations is broken?

And by your statement Indians are OK, but Pakistanis and Bangladeshis are universally less capable and thus not OK?
 
Its the truth, i challenge any BMP supporter to argue otherwise especially to the latter part refering to the indigenous topic

what does our past have anything to do with how modern policys should be made. Or how it's ok to discriminate because other groups where discriminated against in the past. Have a big fat :rolleyes:
 
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