Not at all. Two different event's one has happened. One has not.
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Not at all. Two different event's one has happened. One has not.
Does anyone else think there'll be another English civil war in a few decades time?
It just seems to me that the following is happening:
1. white, working class get ****** off because no-one is listening to their concerns about immigration and so vote BNP.
2. BNP gain small amount of success in largely irrelevant elections.
3. mainstream parties react by saying "OMG this is terrible! we must not pander to the BNP by tolerating any criticism of the multi-cultural agenda and immigration policies"
4. white, working class get even more ****** off that no-one is listening to them and even more of them vote BNP.
5. anti-BNP collective become even more violent and suppressive of anything that criticises multi-culturalism.
It just seems to me that the following is happening:
1. white, working class get ****** off because no-one is listening to their concerns about immigration and so vote BNP.
2. BNP gain small amount of success in largely irrelevant elections.
3. mainstream parties react by saying "OMG this is terrible! we must not pander to the BNP by tolerating any criticism of the multi-cultural agenda and immigration policies"
4. white, working class get even more ****** off that no-one is listening to them and even more of them vote BNP.
5. anti-BNP collective become even more violent and suppressive of anything that criticises multi-culturalism.
perhaps all these unemployed builders need to head south then?
I very much doubt that. Seen the amount of far-right parties in mainland Europe lately? Many of whom are vastly more proportionately popular than the BNP. No civil riots or conflicts of any kind there.
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Egg throwing is nothing new to politicians.
Ask John Major and John Prescott.
Ask John Major and John Prescott.
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Maybe they should
Yeah, the main difference is that on the continent they generally tend to listen to the concerns of people who vote for the far-right parties there. You generally don't see violent protests with the aim of silencing them there.
It's interesting that the one country which does have an extremist anti-fascist element - The Netherlands (even more so than the UK - they even assassinated a far right politician a few years back), saw the right massively increase its share of the vote in this year's Euro elections.
1. As was shown by last weeks vote, the vast majority of the white working class aren't racist tools... I imagine it would take a lot to turn them into such fascists - the socio-economic conditions would have to get so extreme for a party like the BNP to become even remotely likely to have a chance in a general election that I doubt it would matter anyway.
2. All that would have to happen is for either labour to rebuild confidence from its voters or its voters to throw their hand in with anyone but the BNP (which is far more likely) and it would be impossible for the BNP to repeat Sunday's result.
3. wat... the main stream parties have their own policies on immigration and how they wish to control it, they criticize the BNP on the basis of their stance on skin colour and how it should be the defining attribute on policy formation (IE how you can't be British without being white which Nick Griffin repeated on Sunday night)
If you think multiculturism is a bad thing, then good luck with all the ridicule and marginalisation you will receive for your xenophobic views.
4. Guess that was covered in 1.
5. I can't see them getting much more violent than egg hurling which won't be supported by anyone democratic and should they take it any further on that front will definitely not receive popular backing and they themselves will become a marginalised extremist group (which I imagine will only spawn new anti-fascist groups with a moderate stance towards protest which will be the new popular face of the cause)
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From that and many of your posts in this thread I'll assume you are
Wikipedia source
Says it all really, muppet shouldn't even have been permitted to stand for election after a conviction like that. It's indefensible, but no doubt someone will try.
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Thats was a very foolish game that they played with that protest. If they realy wanted to make a show of the BNP they should have just sent a few of their grannys to give him a mouth full. The BNP will be laughing at what happened, it will get them more votes. These sort of protests could if not careful open the door to mob rule politics, think NI politics. Its something you don't readly want.
So he didn't write the article in question then, he merely edited it for publication. Slight difference to what you're getting at there.
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Nick Griffin has explicitly denied the holocaust - some info is in the Wikipedia article.
Labour have an immigration policy? News to me ...
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Why are you so bothered about what he thinks? Is he not allowed to have his own opinion about what happened?
You really do rely on a very limited world view don't you? Of course the construction industry has seen a massive fall off in demand. The housing sector has slowed dramatically, construction in all commercial sectors has ground to a virtual halt and only public sector construction projects continue at any pace. Of course there will always be exceptions, such as your observation
(I haven't made this observation by looking out of my window and not seeing a builder, I am a consultant to leisure real estate developers and therefore have facts to rely on.)If this is how you research and process information, no wonder you have such a shallow grasp of politics and reach such monumentally flawed conclusions.