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Like I said, don't judge them until you know what the strings are, there are bound to be some give and take and cynical old me reckons theres more take (by LU) than there is give
Tube Strike -- 9th-11th
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According to the London evening press, there was a deal ready to go, but then the RMT suddenly demanded the reinstatement of two drivers that LU had sacked. LU said no, so the strike went on.
Not sure how credible that is, but make of it what you will.
Not sure how credible that is, but make of it what you will.
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It's pathetic, one of the drivers is in court soon for theft and the other opened the wrong side doors when he drove the train into a station on the Victoria Line. Ie both fully deserved to be sacked
Not according to the london transport commissioner:
"I am bitterly disappointed. But we cannot deal with individual disciplinary cases under the threat of strike action"
Sounds like a convenient way to carry on with their little strike plan to me.
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Thats crap, RMT front line staff already have job security for the rest of their life due to previous industrial action, TFL have stated categorically that there will be no front line job losses, purely duplicated back office jobs from the metronet takeover which is perfectly reasonable.
If a job isn't financially viable then why should we as taxpayers and ticketholders subsidise their job? it's not about protecting jobs, it's about power and bullying tactics to force their over-inflated demands. None of the other tube unions have called for strikes, you tell me why the RMT are right and the rest are wrong...
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This!
If you wish to believe what the Evening Standard are saying then that's up to you.
The previous industrial action was to secure jobs for ex Metronet employees transferring back into London Underground, there also stands a previous agreement of no compulsory redundancies for existing LU employees. LU management are now refusing to acknowledge those agreements.
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Why not? They're being paid £40k per year for a relatively unskilled job, and demanding 5% and job-safeguarding at a time the economy's going to the wall. The basic starting wage for doctors is £23k, for a much more demanding job with more responsibility, a lengthy training and much greater competition. Health service workers got 1.5% this year.
You think these people should hold the capital to ransom? You come across as the worst kind of union member; selfish and unreasonable.
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I have no sympathy for these work shy muppets that seem to think that they are so special that their jobs should be recession proof...pathetic state of affairs tbh.
I really don't know why the government doesn't simply add all TfL staff to the category of employees not permitted to strike. That the unions are leveraging the utter misery of so many people as a bargaining tool (as always) is sickening.
Introducing such a Bill would even have widespread public support. It might be a good way of Labour gaining some support from the Londoners who are, quite frankly, sick to death of how ****ty the whole system is, including the unions.
If my train was massively delayed because a certain Mr Crow decided to jump infront of it, I actually wouldn't mind for a change.
Introducing such a Bill would even have widespread public support. It might be a good way of Labour gaining some support from the Londoners who are, quite frankly, sick to death of how ****ty the whole system is, including the unions.
If my train was massively delayed because a certain Mr Crow decided to jump infront of it, I actually wouldn't mind for a change.
I was prepared to give them reasonable benefit of the doubt until it turns out they aim is to make their staff undisciplinable, at that point they lost any respect they may have had from me.
A Labour government would never do that. Even Boris Johnson failed to live up to his promise of a no strike deal.
Mainly because the RMT will not give up their blackmail card, it's hard to negotiate with militant lunatics.
It's not about believing the ES, i believe that the RMT are capable of pulling a stunt like that, i may be wrong but their track record hardly helps their cause.
I've not seen any evidence that LU are backing out of those agreements, source?
They have said all along that voluntary redundancy and loss of temporary workers was their preferred option. Either way it's irrelevant, why should every single ex metronet employee keep their job if there's not enough work for them?
For once Boris is right, the whole lot of them are demented if they think i'll be happy to pay higher ticket prices to subsidise duplicate jobs.
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Agreed. I deal with my union (GMB) pretty well in general, and offered a pay freeze, and 4 day weeks and no redundancies. They got a good deal IMO.
It doesn't affect me as I drive into work, but I think considering the ecconomic times asking for 5% pay rise and redundacy protection is ridiculous. Greedy arses. I'm glad they are not all sheep and some have come into work.
Yup and I hope that they pay dearly for this senseless action.
wishful thinking there....
it is a bit mad - we're in a recession they want to cut costs, people probably do need to be sacked for this to happen yet underground workers want to be immune from it all and effectively try to hold London to ransom to get their own way.
I really don't have much sympathy for these strikers, it is completely retarded and I hope management don't give up too much in negotiations.
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Agreed but it won't happen the Unions have too much power - even now.
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