The all encompassing BNP thread - keep all crap in here.

Moley; things have changed since the 80s though.

It is better now; as is the system. True you might not be "stretched" at the top end ... but again if you are smart you should damn well be able to challenge yourself and learn things.

Of course things have changed since the 80s, in fact my education I firmly believe didn't start until I left school and entered the working environment.

However I'm not so sure things have improved for the better - just look at how exams have been dumbed down over the years (resulting in supposedly better results) and how ZanuLabour have made moves to destroy what they see as elitism in schools - which is in actual fact just the normal streaming by ability that all education systems do.

My wife works in the education system providing training for teachers so I do get a view on the modern system other than what the papers tell us.
 
To be fair you do not expect a clever person to get below a B in an A-level given how the selected the subject in the first place

Expect or not, you cant argue that it doesnt happen. And if it happens, its not an absolute. Which is what I was arguing in the first place.
Again, you are studying a subject not just one aspect of it. You are expected to be well versed in all the different areas of that subject.

fair enough. I initially made the point based on my experience of education in India where the average is what counts.

Oh I've had plenty of boring teachers ... and yet here I am doing engineering despite having a really boring Physics teacher in school/6th form; an utterly evil Chemistry teacher and a **** as one of my Maths teachers. I loved all my Biology teachers though - and amazingly I'm not doing Biology.

Just because it happened to you though, doesn't mean it happens to everyone. Our computer teacher at school was so crap that a class of 27 doing computer science (in a year of about 150. so only people who wanted to do it chose it) all decided not to continue it further because she was just that bad. It defintley affected my interset in programming. My history teacher on the other hand was excellent and encouraged people to read more than just the textbook etc. I had an almost equal interest in both subjects, but was pushed towards one because of the teachers. Point being, teachers do matter. They didn't affect you, they did affect me. And i'm sure others will have points on both sides. It's not objective.
That only applies to non-scientific subjects really, and even there the A level system is designed in a pretty good way to prevent that. A selection of work is checked by other markers - and you get the chance to appeal the grade.
Even in the first place; the actual markers tend to be decent and will give you he mark if you deserve it.

No, but the point remains that it does apply to some subjects. And i'm not saying that they might be widely different between the markers. But even if tehy are a little bit differnet, it means they are subjective, not objective. they are not an absolute.

And again scientific subjects will have some hands-on things - but in reality you cannot have a hands-on nuclear reactor in Physics...

No, but for chemistry for example you need access to labs. And suppose a particular school didn't. The bright student in that school may do crap because he would love to study it and practice it but not be able to cause of lack of facilities. I have no idea if this is a serious problem, i'm just saying that if the possibloity of the problem exists, then the student is affected.

Few subjects have an extra entrance exam (and at few universities).

The top places tend to have an extra test for medicine and maths because they get more applicants than they have places and because the A-level system is not geared to differentiate very well at the top end of the scale (well done there New Labour for wanting to make sure even stupid people pass). However this is not what we are talking about surely; we are discussing the middle group ... because if you are at the top end then you should be able to cope with an extra test.

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It's not just medicine and maths though. Oxford for example also has one for history. Maybe that's due to a flaw in the A-Level system, but point is, it's there.
 
Typical.... You make a comment like that, add add stuff like low lifes on council estates. Lableing people like that is rasict no matter what skin color they are... Pram pushers? You ******* kidding me!

Are you an immigrant by any chance? And as for unemplyed people with 12 kids, thats not the english ;)

No im not an immigrant. Im white just like the rest of you yobos in here.

What dont you understand about pram pushers? Just look out of your window or head in to any high street.

What is the english then? I would love to know.
 
No, that's only your interpretation of the law.

It is, however, exactly what the current government intends to make the law, and intends to coerce businesses to do by the use of trillions of pounds of public money. They're certainly trying to do it as much as possible and have been for years. So it isn't far-fetched.
 
No im not an immigrant. Im white just like the rest of you yobos in here.

What dont you understand about pram pushers? Just look out of your window or head in to any high street.

What is the english then? I would love to know.



heres your bnp core voter

http://www.derbygripe.co.uk/scroung2.htm

people who think the world owes them a living, but offer nothing in return
 
No im not an immigrant. Im white just like the rest of you yobos in here.

What dont you understand about pram pushers? Just look out of your window or head in to any high street.

What is the english then? I would love to know.

So mothers? My partner is a mother to my daughter, does that make her a pram pusher? She is after all still a teenager at 19. Yet we both work and claim nothing, so i fail to see what "pram pushers" have to do with anything
 
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Sorry what do you mean by that?:confused:

You seemed to be telling us that Filipinos, Japanese, Indian and generally all people in Australia except a few whites got on well, minded their business and had a lovely time, yet failed to mention the idigenous Aborigines, who get treated like **** by nearly everyone: your posts just felt a little biased about how all was racial paradise in Oz except for some whites.

sorry to derail ... back to BNP stuff.
 
You seemed to be telling us that Filipinos, Japanese, Indian and generally all people in Australia except a few whites got on well, minded their business and had a lovely time, yet failed to mention the idigenous Aborigines, who get treated like **** by nearly everyone: your posts just felt a little biased about how all was racial paradise in Oz except for some whites.

sorry to derail ... back to BNP stuff.

Im not saying that they whites get one, IMO the whites cause a crap load of the Racial hate.
I mean the Filipinos, Japanese, Indian and others get on with there life day to day pretty well from what ive seen and dont cause much trouble. Apart from instances where there is 2 races that have never liked each other anywhere in the world but that seems to be a lot to do with Africans from different tribes and ****(Italians, Turks, Greeks)

Aborigonals have a huge problem where they dont help them selves.

Fair enough that a fairlly big percent do but you get a **** load which dont, All there money goes on drugs, Petrol and alcohole.

And yes a lot of people dont like them, and in the Northern and out back parts they really dont get along.
Some storys ive heard are disgusting TBH:(

But the Aborigonals do have the backing, definatly the welfare and help they need to do something with there lives but again a lot just dont seem to and will sit at home or where ever they are complaining how hard done by they are and how they should be given more.

There are Sucsessfull ones which prove this, quite a few of them. You do get some really nice and respectful ones too. You even get the ones that live like they did 1000s of years back on the land they ahve been given so they arnt all like that.
But the ones that are like i described ruin it for the others.


Myself i dont care, what colour or what race they are its how the actual person is to if i like them or not, but thats just me.
 
I don't understand why people vote to the British Nazi Party?!

Do you guys think UKIP is the same though, one person wrote earlier that they think BNP and UKIP supporters should be 'deported' with his foot. But I see nothing wrong with UKIP's policies.

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Note the hidden terrorist in the corner.
 
heres your bnp core voter

http://www.derbygripe.co.uk/scroung2.htm

people who think the world owes them a living, but offer nothing in return

I could be leaping to conclusions here but your user name suggests you are a Mackem, and you had to go to Derby for a picture of a chav??? Apologies if a Mackem you are not and I withdraw this statement.

However I would suggest that he is actually your core Labour voter as he is getting a free ride.
 
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I could be leaping to conclusions here but your user name suggests you are a Mackem, and you had to go to Derby for a picture of a chav??? Apologies if a Mackem you are not and I withdraw this statement.

However I would suggest that he is actually your core Labour voter as he is getting a free ride.

hehe touche!

thankfully its only the team I follow and dont live in sunderland..but you are right..its full of chavs...regulars on jeremy kyle usually

and if the BNP ever have to repatriate orange people then Sunderland shopping centre will be like a ghost down
 
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