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There's been a few updates and such, so is it worth getting now? What's the multiplayer community like? Will it run ok on my PC (1280x1024)?
Is it worth getting GTA 4?
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Haven't played it?. Then it's well worth getting in my opinion. Fantastic game. 
Should run fine on the rig in your sig. I was running it with fairly high detail levels at 1440x900 using the rig in my sig but at the time it was an ATI X1900XT I had in there and not the 9800GTX+. Ran very well indeed at a pretty good frame rate.
Should run fine on the rig in your sig. I was running it with fairly high detail levels at 1440x900 using the rig in my sig but at the time it was an ATI X1900XT I had in there and not the 9800GTX+. Ran very well indeed at a pretty good frame rate.
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GTA 4 is a good game, one of the best in the GTA series. However the PC port is absolutely dog-**** bad.
If you want a better sandbox style game, I would recommend Saints Row 2. Mmmmmm!
If you want a better sandbox style game, I would recommend Saints Row 2. Mmmmmm!
I wouldn't agree on that, however - I'm curious as to how you found Saints Row 2 on the PC?. Didn't it get really badly panned in reviews?.
I wouldn't on that pc, get a decent cpu first else you will be very disappointed.
A 4870 or better or 8800GT or better is a must too ( yes it runs better on Nv cards).
But
NO NO and NO.
Sr2 runs even worse than GTA IV. Beside looking 100 times worse (it looks like vice city), having rubbish physics, having ANNOYING poor sound quality and generally being a big fail. It's far more repetitive than GTA IV imo due to having to get the respect thing before moving on to proper missions.
But SR2:
It looks crap.
It moves crap.
It runs crap.
It sounds crap.
The draw distance is appalling.
The car handling is jokeable.
Your ears hurt from the sound quality of the radio stations and tire squeeling sounds.
The city is small and a bit one toned.
A 4870 or better or 8800GT or better is a must too ( yes it runs better on Nv cards).
But
NO NO and NO.
Sr2 runs even worse than GTA IV. Beside looking 100 times worse (it looks like vice city), having rubbish physics, having ANNOYING poor sound quality and generally being a big fail. It's far more repetitive than GTA IV imo due to having to get the respect thing before moving on to proper missions.
But SR2:
It looks crap.
It moves crap.
It runs crap.
It sounds crap.
The draw distance is appalling.
The car handling is jokeable.
Your ears hurt from the sound quality of the radio stations and tire squeeling sounds.
The city is small and a bit one toned.
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Well problem is with a dual core you'll struggle to get more than 25-30 ish average fps ingame. On a quad an 8800 at that resolution, it's quite easy to get 30+ at all times and 45 on average. GTA IV is both heavy on GPU and CPU.
SR2 is not heavy on the CPU, but even worse on the GPU than gta iv. Think crysis, but then with terrible graphics.
SR2 is not heavy on the CPU, but even worse on the GPU than gta iv. Think crysis, but then with terrible graphics.
I'm sorry but your wrong, I much prefer the pc version to xbox360, providing your pc can cope it plays a lot smoother and looks miles better. The port could have been smoother, but then it was coded/written for to run on xbox360 which is 3 core based iirc? It is not perfect, but it's far from **** bad as you so elegantly state.
Exactly.
You can't expect this to run nicely if you have a cpu slower than what's in the concoles. Remember console FPS are utter trash too, 33 on average iirc ? That means drops to 15-20's easily. Also they run at an utter rubbish resolution, 640p iirc, and have poor draw distance, traffic, shadows, etc...
You can't expect to simply turn up the res by 2x or more, triple the traffic and double the draw distance, and then expect it to fly.
You lot have got me curious now. I'm considering reinstalling GTA IV to see how my 9800GTX+ handles it compared to the card I played it with previously, an X1900XT. 
In fact, at the time I was running my E6300 at stock and not the 3.2 Ghz it is sat happily at now.
In fact, at the time I was running my E6300 at stock and not the 3.2 Ghz it is sat happily at now.
I'm gonna give it a go.
Only thing is I have no performance benchmark figures to compare it with how it ran the first time around, but I guess I will know straight away whether it runs any better the minute I start playing it.
Because of your cpu, I'd really recommend AGAINST using any vehicle density higher than 10-15 ish...
I had an E6420 @ 2.8 ghz at release of gta iv, upgraded to a q9550 after and it went flying.
To be fair, I recall having the vehicle density set quite low initially but then I ramped it up quite high as for some of the missions it was handy to have more cars driving past you that you could hijack quickly.
I honestly can't recall it affecting the fps that much, at least not enough for me to think "Oh no, it's running like a scabby dug now".
However, my idea of "running fine" and your's may well be two entirely different things.
GTA:SA was fantastic on the PC. I had it on the PS2 initially, in fact I actually went out and bought a PS2 with GTA : SA because I couldn't wait for the PC release and wanted to play it ASAP!!.
But then I got the PC version when it appeared and had still not finished it on the PS2 but never went back to the console version after I started playing it on the PC.
I pretty much did the same with GTA : IV. Sold the 360 version here in the Members Market long before I completed it on the console.
Tefal, if you've already played GTA:SA on your PS2, chances are you'll like it Maybe you should play it before GTA4 though?
Personally I gave SA 30 minutes before uninstalling. It's still on the shelf behind me and been there a year or so. I remember hating the control system (compared to VC), the awful graphics (enhanced for the PC no doubt!) and the horrid invisible spawn bubble which surrounded your character. Think it was the game that got glowing reviews everwhere because Rockstar wouldn't give reviewable copies out to magazines unless they promised high marks.
Maybe you should play it before GTA4 though? Personally I gave SA 30 minutes before uninstalling. It's still on the shelf behind me and been there a year or so. I remember hating the control system (compared to VC), the awful graphics (enhanced for the PC no doubt!) and the horrid invisible spawn bubble which surrounded your character. Think it was the game that got glowing reviews everwhere because Rockstar wouldn't give reviewable copies out to magazines unless they promised high marks.